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submitted 10 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) by Silliari@quokk.au to c/mop@quokk.au

who knew libs would get mad at being called out? /s :3

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[-] KrenkoMobBoss@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago
[-] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 4 hours ago

Hey!!! … I kind of like most of what see about AOC

  • I mean there are no true Scottsman on the left, and I get as an anarchist all politicians are vile, but… can we have at least have one or two?
[-] Silliari@quokk.au 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

this would make sense for actual (democratic) socialists, not socdems like AOC, Bernie Sanders or Mamdani

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I mean...the DSA's whole playbook is running on dem tickets, then voting out the establishment leadership once you have a majority and grabbing that pocketbook.

the two party system is designed specifically to neuter 3rd parties. until the US has proportional and un-gerrymandered representation that doesn't change.

Bernie is kinda doing his own thing, AOC has to know the Dem's are crooked as fuck by now...guarentee you any kind of proper progressive reform passes through congress and she votes alongside the DSA. and mamdani especially is classic DSA-dino.

[-] Silliari@quokk.au 1 points 1 hour ago

bro literally appointed a zionist into his cabinet, this is defo cope

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

interesting, the various zionist rags out there are all complaining his cabinet has too many anti-zionist connections...ime whoever's on the opposite side of those tends to be right.

personally, my own thought on this would be...why the fuck should a NYC mayoral office give two shits about israel one way or the other again?

they're managing NYC not Zion, so why should anyone care at all about their personal views on it matter, unless they're actively/directly helping israel level apartment blocs and starve babies it is entirely irrelevant.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 6 hours ago

Fuck this purity test bullshit

[-] Silliari@quokk.au 1 points 2 hours ago

“purity test” and it’s not wanting centrists to call themselves leftists

[-] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 hours ago

Fuck radlibs whining about leftism not accommodating their privileged fantasies.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 points 5 hours ago

Those who sow division reap what they sow.

[-] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 hours ago

Society is divided because leftists sow division. I am very intelligent.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

At the moment, I'm not talking about "leftists" or "liberals" or whatever other dividing line you want to define.

I'm talking about you, personally, right now.

Solidarity is the only way forward. We prevail when we lift each other up.

Every other choice is backward.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

I'm sorry but discouraging electoral participation is extremely dumb. Until the revolution comes, that's how change happens.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Just one more election, bro. This time we'll get on track. Just one more election, bro. This one is the most important one in our lives. Just one more election, bro. /s

Disclaimer: Vote, if you want to (it's not too much of a hassle for me, so I indulge in some elections, too). But please don't volunteer for electoral campaigns if there are better options available to get polieically engaged (there always are).

[-] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 14 minutes ago

If you are fighting and have a weapon, why not using it? Even if it's a dull knife it can help.

[-] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 hours ago

The revolution does not come to us. We make it, beginning in the here and now.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, so if someone is telling me not to vote and they aren't currently revolting, I'm discounting them as counterproductive at best.

[-] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 hours ago

I am not telling you not to vote.

I am telling you not to wait for the revolution to come to you, but instead to be the revolution.

[-] SoupBrick@pawb.social 23 points 8 hours ago

How about we just stand with whoever opposes our current authoritarian government and try to get them out of power instead of pulling this "holier than thou" crap.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385509607_Infiltration_and_Instigation_Analyzing_the_FBI_and_CIA's_Role_in_Anti-War_and_Civil_Rights_Movements_of_the_1960s-1970s

Students for a Democratic Society (SDS): SDS was one of the most influential student organizations of the anti-war era, mobilizing large-scale protests and advocating for democratic socialism and direct action against the Vietnam War. Through Operation CHAOS, the CIA infiltrated SDS chapters, gathering intelligence on its membership and strategies. The agency’s informants sometimes instigated aggressive actions or created tensions between factions within the group, contributing to its eventual dissolution. By sowing division and encouraging splintering, the CIA effectively weakened SDS as a unified force, reducing its influence over the national anti-war movement.

[-] Silliari@quokk.au 2 points 1 hour ago

Liberals literally have never opposed Authoritarianism in any meaningful way

[-] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 36 minutes ago

Liberals are not leftists so idek what you are all going on about

[-] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Liberals never act meaningfully to threaten authoritarianism.

Liberals protect the state. The state protects authoritarianism. When leftists undertake direct action to protect the population against such oppressive systems, liberals pretend that leftists are the greater enemy.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 hours ago

Gatekeeping and purity tests are super productive.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

That's not purity testing, though. The DNC is not leftist. They're capitalist and some individuals are (arguably) socdems at best.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 8 hours ago

Get lost with your purity test nonsense. It’s always libs trying to shit on actual leftists for not tolerating their crap. You are not leftists, there is no purity test when you’re not on our side.

[-] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago

Stfu and punch a fascist and stop trying to divide the only friends your side has left.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 5 hours ago

Liberalism is in opposition to us. Liberalism is friends with fascism, it protects the capitalist system and ruling class.

Wake me up when you’re ready to burn down the state and end capitalism and we can be friends. But once you reach that stage you won’t be a liberal any more, so it won’t matter.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Hey Deceptichum, what do you eat? Because if purity tests for "actual leftism" are on the menu, boy do I have a fuck of an unnecessary hierarchical power structure perpetuated for profit and justified by "the natural order" which results in the exploitation, torture, and murder of billions of an oppressed underclass that you just have to give your opinion about.

... Or is "actual leftism" just "give or take whatever my views are"?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

Yet you participate in society.jpeg

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 7 hours ago
[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

That's really cool. Right on. I assume you wouldn't go around calling people fake leftists for not being vegan. I wouldn't, despite animal agriculture being one of the most entrenched establishments in modern society and completely antithetical to leftist principles. That's not rooted in strategy either; that's just acknowledging that "leftism" isn't a monolith and that everybody has their own journeys. I don't see them as "not leftists" despite unquestioningly participating in a system that spits in the face of every leftist ideal I know and causes unimaginable suffering and damage because of it.

Some of the shit in this image is obviously non-leftist like anti-antifa and Joe Biden, but it's mixed in with center-left politicians and ideas – like you're not a "real leftist" if you support sensible gun control, voting, a couple politicians who've probably inspired a leftist awakening in millions of people, and uh... Corporate appropriation of gay culture? This image has to be old as dirt, because I don't know anyone these days who applauds that while self-describing as "a leftist".

Some of these are obvious; some of them just seem like obnoxious purity tests that drive people away from leftism. The way they're mixed in together seems disingenuous.

[-] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

What do trolls eat?

You are definitely not leftist if you advocate for the state consolidating control over arms leaving the working class defenseless. Leftists understand that community self defense is the only means to challenge the massive systemic violence inherent in capitalism.

[-] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago

Is Genocide Joe anti-capitalist?

[-] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago

You don't know what those words mean.

You just imagined they would be useful for you to validate your antagonism.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 23 points 9 hours ago

im14andthisisdeep

[-] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

What is the hand holding the carrot symbol?

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Food Not Bombs!

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