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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

This is like movie companies saying that me pirating a movie cost them money.

Absence of a free thing isn't going to magic some money into my wallet with which to buy your thing, I'm still broke AF.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 22 points 4 months ago

My gramma totally screwed Intel. She never used a computer in her entire life.

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[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

But it does take money away in other ways. I use GIMP for work which could easily pay for Adobe if I asked them. We just don't need to since we aren't doing any high-demand tasks.

[-] Johnnyvibrant@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 months ago

Adobe hasn't lost anything, they have tied up "design" for any business use. Its a total monopoly.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, this is kinda BS.

Adobe don't care. Nearly every design firm is going to ask you about your Adobe experience, so you can use their Adobe software.

Maybe some of their designers will use GIMP. But that's like saying your office also uses libre office and Linux. Which is extremely rare.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago

My kids keep screwing Nintendo. The other day I saw my kid grab a Lego, he slid it on the table and then made it jump over an orange.

I'm waiting for the letter from their lawyers.

[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Right? I hate the phrasing in this headline. Adobe isn't somehow "owed" those millions so it's totally backwards to call that a loss. Fuck that noise.

They're a business, they should earn their revenue by fostering a healthy competitive environment and then winning through innovation and customer loyalty. Not the monopoly licensing and subscription lock-in BS they've been doing for decades.

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

All monopolies (including Adobe) should be seized by the workers, and then split into different companies and collectivized by the workers. Seriously!

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 months ago

Look... I like gimp a lot and Jehan is a G.

Adobe has lost basically nothing. Because Gimp is still ridiculously underpowered compared to Adobe Photoshop (let alone the rest of the suite). That is perfectly fine since the vast majority of users don't need those capabilities. But the people who do (e.g. professionals)? There is really no other choice.

[-] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that title's last sentence is just a straight-up lie, lol

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Do execs really hate him? Competition validates the marketplace and your product. Plus they can afford to develop more features than the open source community can produce in the same amount of time. So they can always argue you are paying for the additional features.

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I used Photoshop professionally for nearly 30 years. I retired and don't need it anymore, so now I use GIMP on Linux for the few personal projects I want to make.

GIMP's interface leaves a lot to be desired. One example, in Photoshop the Channels tab shows all the channels and includes any masks you make, they look and work similarly to the layers, and it's intuitive--when you learn one, you know the other. GIMP doesn't work that way, in fact I've yet to make sense of the channels.

Also, typically one would expect filters to only be applied to a selected layer and even to a selection within that layer. Some GIMP filters apply to the whole image, flattening my layers, and creating new ones. Fortunately, these are made in a new document, so you don't lose anything, but the filter cannot be applied to a partial image, you'd need to pull the result back into your original image and mask out the part you wanted. Very strange.

I could go on about how selecting works and doesn't work, but I won't.

No, Adobe has not "lost millions" due to GIMP, they haven't lost a cent. People who use GIMP were either never going to pay Adobe a cent, or already have and are using GIMP now, for similar reasons to my own. Virtually no one uses GIMP professionally at any volume of interest to Adobe.

It's a good and useful tool, but it's severely lacking compared to Photoshop.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Affinity is free now, it's pretty good. I don't know how long that will last though.

[-] BC_viper@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Ive used gimp since 2010. Its so good. I used to be a lot better at it back in university than I am now. But it still use it all the time.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Switched to GIMP from Photoshop probably 15 years ago. Adobe didn't lose any money, however, I've always pirated from those greedy fucks.

[-] baatliwala@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Man ain't nobody lost money because of Gimp. Flawed argument aside, at least Blender could be in for a shout

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

And Inkscape, fuck Adobe :)

[-] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 4 months ago

Now that's a more reasonable contender than GIMP

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

What are some other good open alternatives to GIMP?

Having been in the design trade for 20 years, I’ve mastered countless design applications, but GIMP’s UI is something I have always struggled with.

My goto these days has been photopea when I need something fast and free… but it’s not open and it’s ad supported.

[-] Beryl@jlai.lu 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Try Krita, it doesn't do everything GIMP does but depending on your workflow it might do the trick for you.

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[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 3 points 4 months ago

Here, you can filter by OS and license.

https://alternativeto.net/software/gimp/

Honestly the GIMP interface is way better than it used to be (5-10 years ago?). The old multi-window design always frustrated me but with the single-window tab view it feels much more normal.

[-] ace_garp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I've heard

https://photogimp.com/

mentioned as a more familiar UI, for those moving over from locked-in software.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yah, Adobe execs are crying about GIMP in their mattresses stuffed with thousand-dollar bills.

Bullshit, atomizing and pandering headlines aside, GIMP is a great program for light-duty graphics work and very easy to learn how to do impressive things with and a great intro to graphics programs and photo editing before investing in a more robust program.

[-] stenAanden@feddit.dk 3 points 4 months ago
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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If pirating Photoshop counts as a lost sale then so does downloading GIMP.

If so, this man is one of the greatest software pirates ever.

[-] Johnnyvibrant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

Adobe pretty much encouraged piracy up until about a decade ago, that way they got schools to train (for free) potential future customers in their way to use design software.

TBH I don't understand why they have gone with the subs model they currently have, its kind of cutting the blood line from their future customers.

Competition is always a good thing, FOSS competition is the best thing in my opinion.

This guy is a hero, but not because he is trying to fuck Adobe but rather he is helping free design software from (massive) cost which most people cannot afford.

More designers, better art to my mind.

[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The subs model ensures regular and predicable quarterly revenue, which means easier forecasting of growth, which means happier shareholders.

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

The weirdest part is the name. Is there any way I can use the software without typing that BDSM term?

[-] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

In Mint right now if I hit the menu and type "photo" I get five options and GIMP is one of them. But it doesn't say GIMP on my screen, it says "GNU Image ..." next to the icon.

If I type "image" then GIMP is second in the list after photo viewer.

Normally though I just hit super - g - i - m - p - ENTER. Because I wanna run GIMP damn it!

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

You could try typing the term used to refer (usually derogatorily) to a person with an injury or deformity in their lower extremities, or the term used as a synonym for hobble.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

This troll again?

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Such a horrible product name.

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[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Millions of dollars? That's not much.

[-] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Exactly.

Lost what money? People choosing not to buy your stuff isn't "lost income". Tell C-Suite to stop projecting everyone and their dog using their shit and take care of the users that they have.

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

This is a cool fun fact, but it's not really an interesting picture. Should've been posted in Today I Learned or something instead of Pics.

[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A few of the replies here, those making those replies, could do with having someone introduce them to the concept of "put up or hack up", and getting into a Free Software philosophy mindset, and out of a consumer mindset.

GIMP's free software. Free to use, study, share and change... You the user are empowered. Even if you yourself lack aptitude (beyond just having never tried), you can still seek the services of others, be it those you pay to implement what you want, or, form a community of like minded individuals with similar needs to be met, and from there, start to make it as you want. These days, even LLMs can help curate the software into forms more suited to your needs. ... That is, where that's not already happened, or where there are reconfigurations you were simply not aware of, because it had not occurred to you to search for such, having been conditioned to stay in the box by the consumer mindset the corporation curated in your mind. It's refreshing to get out of having your mind curated by the corporation, and into using your mind to curate your software.

Either the user controls the software, or the user is controlled by the software and those who control the software.

It's a different philosophy. Not just a different platform for you as a "consumer". You're not a cash-cow for the corporation, with Free Software. You can contribute. Scratch those itches yourself. You may find others share the same itch. Giving back, is a much more rewarding experience than just hoping daddy corporation will give you what you want while you continue to atrophy your abilities.

Put up or hack up. ;)

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 4 months ago

The GIMP user would never have paid Adobe for Photoshop anyway.

If anything, it actually helped people get into photo editing and ended up using Photoshop at their work.

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I should mail this guy $5. Or, like, an edited image of a $5 bill with his face on it.

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