To anyone who didn’t vote last year because they didn’t like the democrats position to a 100%:
I hope you are happy with what you have enabled. You must feel quite clever right now❤️
To anyone who didn’t vote last year because they didn’t like the democrats position to a 100%:
I hope you are happy with what you have enabled. You must feel quite clever right now❤️
I hate the establishment Dems, neo-liberals suck. But I still voted for them because the actual Fascists and Nazis were unconscionable.
It's like a choice between getting a cavity and getting curb stomped.
Having two federal parties with the Dems and Republicans being the only feasible options sounds antidemocratic. A true democracy would be a bit more.. representative.
Our voting system is fucked is the problem.
I would adore having a half dozen political parties along the spectrum to vote for. I wouldn't vote for anything less than mild progressivism but still.
Oh, they sure AF do. Just talked to one of these dipsticks in person recently. They feel very clever and smug and look forward to accelerating shit into some kind of Marxist utopia.
And of course, the 'net is lousy with these types.
It's all so dumb.
You should post this on x.com or something. Imagine thinking anyone on this site didn't vote.
"voting is wrong" was an incredibly popular position on lemmy
people conflated "voting won't save us" with "voting won't do anything". If voting was useless they wouldn't try so hard to stop people from doing it. But also, voting one day a year and shrugging your shoulders 364 days and year cause "I voted" wasn't enough.
You would be quite surprised by the amount of Americans on here who didn't vote. I have come across quite a lot
ICE records show Biden admin plans could give Trump a head start on deportations
President Biden Signs Anti-Immigrant Spending Bill Reaching Trump-Era Highs
Biden’s Emergency Funding Proposal Seeks $14 Billion for Immigration System From Congress
Tom Homan - Border Czar was originally appointed by Obama
Keep in mind, these democrat moves to bolster ICE were happening while the right was blatantly telegraphing their moves to immediately weaponize ICE once they took power. Project 2025 came out and promised to use ICE to plunder and abuse Americans. Biden and team then spent the next 4 years not only failing to prepare for Trump, but preemptively strengthening the mechanisms Trump would eventually use to carry out project 2025. The democrats are controlled opposition.

Sure, maybe we wouldnt be seeing this intense of immigration enforcement if Kamala were in charge, but if she were, she'd be working behind the scenes to ensure the right had all the tools they needed when the time was right.
The democrats are controlled opposition and the American electoral system is kabuki theater. The fascist descent is the only logical conclusion to the American political experiment- which was predicated on the wholesale genocide of Native American Indians and quickly pivoted to enslaving an entire continent.
You realize what the only logical conclusion to your "pragmatic liberal utilitarianism" is, right? I give it 4 years before youre chiding leftists for not voting for dem candidate Ted Cruz as he campaigns against republican candidate Mecha Hitler. Youll still see nothing wrong with that. You will sell out the victims of American Imperialism to buy yourself 4 more years of political waffling - just as you did with Palestinians.
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. If they had stopped money to ICE it would have been all over the airwaves. “Dems soft on immigration”.
1 billionaire owns like 70% of the radio across the country, doesn't matter what you say the right's propaganda machine will always be on target.
Wouldn't be hard to fight back if a broken immigration system wasn't a bipartisan effort to encourage illegal immigration and let farmers take advantage of workers.
BuT TeH GeNoCiDe D:
Great job, now we have genocide AND this bullshit. Thank you so much for saving Palestine! You fucking did it, I guess.
Trump: Yes to Genocide
Harris: I see you, I hear you, but also Yes to Genocide
I voted for Harris because obviously but also I 100% put the blame where it belongs: the DNC.
Comply and die anyway



So ICE have murdered one person, shot another, thrown a flash bang and tear gas into a car full of children who then had to be hospitalized, attacked high schools where they beat staff and gassed students, gassed protestors, gone door to door breaking into houses and dragging out the occupants to be disappeared, pointed guns directly at citizens' heads... and that's just what one Canadian has seen from Minneapolis in the last few days. I have friends in Minneapolis and it pains me to see that great city being terrorized daily by this fascist government.
They murdered way more than that, no one gave a shit about the murders until it happened to a white lady. And really they been murdering for years. They just do the standard shithead “I’m technically within the letter of the rules so you can’t tell on me” shit where they game the system (that they set up).
Case in point: the tactic used by the guy who shot the white lady was not one of the recent hires. He’d been with ice for years and before that with border patrol. So why is he stepping in front of cars, especially when apparently he had an incident stepping behind a car somewhat recently that almost caused him grave injury? Oh and also it’s against DHS policy for agents to stand in front of, behind, or reach into vehicles:

People make mistakes but surely someone went over policy while debriefing the incident where he got dragged by a car or whatever. So why’d he do it again? Oh probably because border patrol does it regularly because if they purposely put themselves in danger it gives them an excuse to use lethal force with plausible deniability and basically never gets looked into because the overwhelming majority of the US populace couldn’t give a single shit about brown people being murdered:

Also note that in this internal review cbp points out what many have pointed out in the aftermath of this: a bullet won’t stop a car, shooting at a car runs a tremendous risk of hitting other people as it’s likely to be in a populated area, and even if you’re successful in incapacitating or killing the driver you’ve basically just created a several thousand pound missile that’s still barreling towards you (and others) with no feasible way to stop safely (which is exactly what happened here. Also note this review finds 15 cases of discharge, several of which resulted in occupants being struck.
This shit has been going on for ages and the apathy towards it in the past is part of what created the conditions for it. It’s escalating, for sure, but it’s not new at all
Lots of people cared, the media just barely touched it so most people didn't know. I do appreciate you spreading the information because more people do need to learn about it.
Abolish DHS/ICE immediately and lock up anyone even remotely related. And probably hang Kristy Gnome.
Don't forget about the person they permanently blinded the other day
He was like only 21 y.o. too.
Every single one of these motherfuckers deserve a violent death.
Jews dragged from their homes by Gestapo were German citizens also.
The migrant vs citizen thing is the thinnest of pretences.
Sooner or later theyll just say theyre getting rid of anyone they dont like, say something about purity or whatever.
They are already mounting a Supreme Court Challenge to birthright Citizenship, and reviewing citizenship documentation for others.
Bottom line: If you weren't BORN here of American citizens parents, they want you gone.
When they're done dealing with those people, they'll start looking at other demographic groups.
ICE already says their facial recognition app is more accurate than your actual citizenship papers.
Bottom line: If you weren’t BORN here of American citizens parents, they want you gone.
Except for Musk and Melania and all of their in group.
If you weren’t BORN here of American citizens parents
Not to say that if you were born here of American citizen parents they don't also want you gone. Plenty of brown people with Hispanic last names who's ancestors have lived in the lower 48 for 20,000 years are also getting harassed and abused by ICE.
You didn't catch when they called her an "agitator"? Pure, uncut fascism.
They already claimed they wanted 150M deportations. i.e. anyone who isnt white.
Nazi ideology in-a-nutshell.
They never tell the truth. Everyone they kidnap and assault is protester in their mind.
Rioter*
ICE in background trying to cover cameras.
We should stop saying detained or arrested if the agents fail to identify themselves properly.
Grabbed is the lightweight but accurate one.
Snatched, kidnapped, abducted all fit.
Ok, I will say it: this is nothing new. Even the scale is not that new. During the protests after George Floyd murder we have seen police shoot rubber bullets at people indiscriminately, 20 people suffered serious eye injuries. In 2024 police killed 1200 people. Between 2022 and 2024 15.000 people died in prisons. We have seen police target random people for illegal stops all the time, they would arrest people under false pretenses (arresting only for resisting arrest for example) all the time, drag people out of their cars, beat them up and torture them all the time and they would almost never face any consequences. Yet watching videos from ICE raids it looks like people still believe the are somehow protected from violence, that ICE will respect their rights, that if they are US citizen they have some immunity to all this. Were people ignorant of all the police violence all this time? Don't they realize ICE can and will simply kidnap them, beat them up and drop them off somewhere without consequences? Because they do look surprised when it happens when it's the least surprising thing there is. It's shocking, yes, police violence in US was always shocking, but it's not surprising. Would you be surprised that a biker gang beat you up after you insulted them?
My point is that if you're interacting with ICE you should be aware that they will murder you if then can find an excuse and that you don't have any rights. If you're protesting protest peacefully and avoid interactions. If you want to confront them do it like you would confront a violent street gang. It's baffling that people get tough with ICE and then are surprised they got hurt.
Why the fuck is everyone just standing there doing nothing? For fuck sake, cause a scene or a distraction, its not that hard. Help each other.
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