Just because an account got verified doesn't mean Bluesky agrees with them
Verify it, then put a warning along the lines of
"This is the official profile of a fascistic terrorist organization. Beware."
Yeah, that makes sense. But why just verify? What non-evil is there that you achieve with that?
But why just verify? What non-evil is there that you achieve with that?
It gives those who're gonna have a field day with those cunts when they start lying, a legit target, and that it's not some asshat that is pretending to be ICE. I'm on bluesky and somewhat delighted they're going to have a presence. I'm gonna have fun ripping them new assholes.
The verification doesn't work like on Twitter, it's just proving the identity, it's not some flag of prominence.
There's even multiple organizations who can issue verifications on bluesky, for example newspapers can act as verifiers of their own staff;
Narrator: in fact they did agree with them, for the money was green and did flow and in the end that was all that mattered to them
Mastodon was always the only real choice
They shouldn't be allowed onto the platform at all. Don't verify them, ban them.
I’d rather the platform not be in charge of who’s allowed to use it. Yeah ICE sucks, but that’s not for the platform to decide.
If they break the rules of the platform, that’s a different story.
It's useful for them to have a presence because it helps drum up anger at them. Did you see the shit on twitter where the official twitter of DSHS posted a pic of a tropical paradise with the caption America after 100 million deportations? Notably nobody believes there are 100M undocumented immigrants or even 100M immigrants period. 100M is the number of non-white people in America.
They literally said America will be great after we implement the final solution to the brown people problem. Hard to beat them calling themselves nazis. I say let them speak. Let people hear their hate so nobody has any illusions about who we are up against.
Wellllll...
In principle verification is not in itself an endorsement by the platform
In principle platforms should verify government entities, given sufficent documentation
In practice, I don't fucking care, abolish ICE, fuck everyone who bows to them, platforms aren't obligated to be the mouthpieces of clearly fascist governments
What's the issue with them being verified..?
Yea i don't get it either, all it means is that they checked and it's run by actual ICE. It's not xitter, they don't get special privileges from it.
Yeah, this just allows people to know that their content is really from the US government. Not verifying them seems like a worse alternative for everyone.
It’s not about verification per se. Since anyone can create an account directly, no BlueSky accounts are necessarily reviewed by BlueSky. Someone could create an account for Nazi pedos who drink blood and you wouldn’t blame BlueSky for that immediately. But if BlueSky came along and said “hm, yes, you are verified” then they have in an explicit way endorsed the account’s ability to exist. Basically the account passed moderation. Since many consider ICE to be an illegally deployed terror force on American soil, it’s you know, a little disappointing to see anyone treat them as a legitimate entity on any level. A democratic president worth his salt will disband the organization on day 1 and sponsor legislation to prevent them ever coming back.
I have trouble with the word endorsed. It's not as if being verified does anything other than provide a guarantee that the people are who they're claiming to be.
Personally I think it's great that they are so willingly publicly verified. It will be useful evidence that their trials.
I understand what you are saying. Verification is just about identity - it’s not validation.
Except it’s about validation on one very basic level. I’ve seen the inside of large social media moderation operations and you are missing one thing. These companies will not verify an account for The Islamic State, no matter how readily they can prove that they are who they say they are. They will not just sit there as a neutral party and say Osama Bin Laden? Looks real to me! They will ban and block and log and report.
ICE are in open warfare against American civilians and BlueSky just said “yep your id checks out.” They could have said “we will not be a megaphone for a rogue agency waging war on Minneapolis.” As for gathering evidence to hang them with later… their BlueSky tweets are not going to add much to the video footage we have of them killing people in the streets.
ICE could easily make an account on Mastodon, would they get pissed if that happened too?
They could, however...
Mastodon is made of lots of instances, nobody wants to be the instance with ICE on it. If they make their own instance or the government makes their own, they can be defederated by whatever instances wish to.
That's the difference, you can kick Ice out of your federated servers. You can't do that with bsky.
Bluesky is made of lots of instances as well. More people should move off bsky.social.
Check myatproto.social, bsky.global and https://atprotify.me/
Mastodon can have instancewide ban, I am pretty sure any instance which allowed ICE would get the whole instance banned, and with it all the users leaving to any other one
I can't find icegov on Bsky
Must already be on a moderation list I'm subscribed to
EDIT: Yep. It is.
tbf Lemmy is just Reddit in its infancy.
Not sure how a decentralized platform can be controlled by a single entity. Maybe lemmy.world, but not Lemmy itself.
The lives of people that care about the issues are spent switching services as previous ones enshitify themselves in order to get an extra buck and/or please the dear leader. I feel like I'm always switching some kind of service.
I could never get used to that sort of app. Be it Twitter, bsky, or even mastodon. If I follow people, my feed gets so much content that I consider spam.
Say, there is a person that is awesome and occasionally posts interesting things. But also posts random spammy stuff, like "just took a shower. I feel so clean!". Why am I wasting my time reading that sort of content?? I think there are 0 people in the world from which I want to read 100% of their content. Maybe very very very few. So, it doesn't make much sense to follow people, and then waste hours scrolling content about which I don't care.
I could follow tags, but they still get so much spam and so I still have to scroll and scroll..
It is just not for me.
I think it's the whole parasocial relationship thing, where you think you're close friends with someone who doesn't know your name.
they could essentially create an account on mastodon and self verify. I guess the bad part is that bsky pro actively has to verify and they did.
odd that their username is @icegov.bsky.social instead of @ice.gov... i guess nobody on their social media team knows how to configure a DNS record or create a .well-known textfile.
- It's the same fucking Billionaire, Jack Dorsey made/whatever Twitter, and then he made/whatever Bluesky.
- This is the same fucking thing as the windows/mac switch from the 00s. If you want an alternative to fucking windows, linux exists and existed back then too. But it's the same, the masses want the corporate bullshit, just the "New and improved!" version becoming trendy.
Jack Dorsey didn't make bluesky, was on their board of directors briefly until he ragequitted because they started moderating content
Linux is barely becoming a viable everyday option now, switching to it in the 2000s was not gunna work for most people. Glad it’s picking up steam but c’mon.
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