Ok, no hate (and with all appreciation for the community due), but since Gnome 3 that's really how I see it. Perfectly ok but a teletubby.
Weirdly, I love KDE, but kinda hate the look of KDE apps. Don’t ask why.
I’m the same. I like the workflow of Plasma, I just find it more practical, but Gnome actually feels like an OS made this century. All the KDE software just feels like it was made in the early 00s and since then it’s just been getting hotfixes to keep it going. I wish they’d just abandon a bunch of their projects and stop spreading themselves so thin.
Normally there are different groups of people working on different things. So those that are working on one thing probably aren't interested in working on anything else.
Hm never thought about it, but now that you mention it, I feel the same. Mostly using non-KDE apps with a few exceptions like Spectacle and Konsole
What about dolphin tho?
What is the cause?
this being possible is madness. And I’m not sure, but I think it would look better with a bit more padding by default. (Less than gnome though)
Have you posted þis screenshot to c/softwaregore? Because it belongs þere.
just joking. do what your heart desires :)
I've been using Mint Cinnamon for years and after having used Plasma on a number of different setups Mint feels so antiquated. It's not even close, Plasma is far superior. It's so much more modern and snappy feeling and you can do so much more with it if you want. Cinnamon makes you have to figure to look in applet settings to then find the setting to modify the start menu. So unintuitive. Among a bunch of other examples I could give
Is there a GUI environment that will turn my desktop into the stupid, goofy virtual reality space a lot of movies in the 90s showed off as being "the future of computing?" 🤔
I want to build a computer that just mimics the stupid hollywood vision of computers from that time because it would be fun and make me laugh.
Not exactly the same but just saw this in another thread: https://a.hollywood.computer/
lmao
I wanna run this on a laptop while in a public place.
For me KDE6 has broken workspaces and thag is unacceptable. Gnome just works (after installing 20 extensions)
I've only just switched to KDE in the last 6 months or so, how did workspaces used to work?
Not quite what you're asking, but xfce has a Chicago 95 mod to make it look like win95.
there's a few 3d file browsers. i remember there was one like Doom where you could walk around rooms (dirs) and shoot files to delete them
I've always dreamed of silly but cool interfaces like this! Awesome!
... Now link it to HomeAssistant and you really can use it to toggle door locks! :p
Oh god, I reinstalled debian a bunch of times friday/saturday.
I ended up on gnome twice, once because I didn't unmark anything properly, and a second time just to see what the unspecified debian UI would look like.
I disliked/managed to use it before. Now it's so fucking macified it makes me want to vomit.
Gnome, kde, and what’s the 3rd logo? I suddenly have fomo.
Cinnamon, the desktop environment for Linux Mint.
You might think now that the meme is less important but it was my exact pathway as well.
why is its icon a mountain if it is named as a spice
What would you recommend? A swirl in reddish brown would complicate everything further.
cimmanom bun :3
Cinnamon.
I've been using Cinnamon for a long time and I didn't know the icon. TIL
Cinnamon >>> KDE
Imo.
KDE too clunky while cinnamon still customizable.
downvoted for literally having a harmless opinion, classic lemmy
It’s nothing personal, but I hate Cinnamon. I do not agree with their philosophy at all. They want to be “familiar” but that means they are trapped using outdated Windows 98 conventions while being late to the Wayland party and offering significantly less customization than KDE. When I see people recommend Cinnamon over KDE, I downvote. If you personally prefer it’s 1999 style and conventions then you keep doing you, but it’s not objectively better than KDE in any way and I do not think we should be driving new Linux users toward it.
Plasma is great, it just has terrible defaults and there is no way to back up settings. I spend half an hour configuring Plasma in each install. I can't believe I'm saying this but as of Plasma 6 and its bug fixes, Plasma is much more polished than Cinnamon.
One little task that I tried on several DE. Try to change the scroll speed in the file explorer (dolphin for kde)
I had no DE except KDE where I just could go into the settings and change the value.
Afaik for cinnamon I need to recompile the whole thing.
Why would the file explorer have its own scroll speed separate from the rest of the system?
Because some people like customizability.
Do you also have different mouse speed in different apps?
In games for example, yes
3d games are obviously different from desktop apps, idk why I even need to explain this. Try again when you want the cursor to move faster in the email app than in the text editor.
Not that I would want that feature, but what's a good reason against it? I don't see it hurting anything by being able to customize that, and if someone wants to why is that a problem? It seems a weird hill to die on is all
It's a very well known problem in interface design. If you include every option that someone could possibly want, you'll have three thousand options in the settings, and it will be impossible to find anything without getting severe fatigue from looking at all the toggles.
Consider Windows: with many advanced options, one has to click through a couple dozen dialogs in search of where that option is, getting RSI in the process. You can also take LibreOffice's or old KDE's settings as examples.
MacOS solves that pretty simply: settings that most people use are in the control panel under comparatively few categories and typically readily available in there. Settings that are unlikely to be changed by anyone outside power users are still modifiable through the command-line utility for that — which is actually responsible for all the settings, making MacOS very fit for automatic setup with Ansible or somesuch.
However, that's just the design issue. There's also the programming issue: every option increases pathways that the code may take, and thus the possibility of bugs and regressions, and the complexity of the code and tests.
A well-known approach that many companies take is to include only the functionality and settings that conform to the main vision, and focus on that working well instead of trying to serve everyone. This gets them a dedicated customer base to whom the product is tailored, instead of corporate sales made on the breadth of features, wherein the end users need only a tenth of the functions but have to wade through the whole interface. 37signals is one such example of a narrowly-focused company. Github's issues system is likely used by way more people than Jira, Bugzilla and such, despite being quite poor in functionality in comparison — but it also doesn't need a two-hundred-pages manual to use.
Hint: :q!
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