what does it mean to be knowledgeable in tarot or astrology?
Quite the epistemological question, strawberry!
Here I suppose I mean simply do you know anything about such subjects.
I'm super confused.
But
Im finishing up my PhD in cognitive neuroscience so that's psychology. So I know a tiny bit about psychology.
In my teens I got into new age stuff a lot. I learned how to read tarot and palms. I always enjoyed (still do) the imagery and stories contained in the cards.
In college I learned the terminology for how fortune telling works which I had already deduced but didn't know the term. It's barnum effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect
Also I don't know what you mean by pentacles being science.
There are some themes in some suits but not fully. And pentacles are often presented as coins in illustrations. If they represent anything united, it's materialism and greed for things.
Swords mostly represent social conflicts. Challenges.
Wands. Hm. I'll have to think. These are sometimes called staves too. Could imply intentions. Creative ideas. I think of them as symbolic like candle flames.
Cups. Maybe fruition of work. Creations materializing. Relationships that are built.
These sort of interpretations are similar to other people's, all over the internet.
Just search "themes of tarot suits". Or Try "symbolism of suits."
Confused we all are daannii, but through your confusion we have found ourselves in dialogue and that I am grateful for!
Congratulations on the Pretty hard Degree - what's your thesis on?
With regards to imagery, story, and symbolism - that's the discussion I am hoping to open! Your analysis of the cards, specifically their suits, is a great place to start, no? Pentacles: materialism. Do we see the sciences as materialist? Maybe some, but not all, who knows!
Wands - perhaps the arts? Or maybe only the visual arts - painting, photography, sculpture. Maybe dramatics lays somewhere else - I haven't a clue, maybe you do?
I will research more of course and thank you for your recommendations, however nothing beats a cup of tea and some natter with anons online
My area of study is very niche. I research how motor feedback signals from the focusing lens in the eye provide depth information.
So far my research experiments have supported that we can infact use some of this motor feedback to guide decisions. But just barely and not in everyone. However I ran 5 experiments with slightly changed setups and found the results to be consistent.
As for wands and the arts. I think that's fair to apply it more broadly to inspiration or creativity in multiple types of arts.
Personally I consider most hobbies to be art. If it involves making something, it's art in my book.
I think the tricky part might be distinguishing cups from wands.
Cups being the completed goal.
Wands being the creation of inspiration or ideas.
Cups might be science discoveries. Knowledge.
Wands might be the motivation or inspiration to pursue knowledge.
Pursuit of wealth as primary motivator over knowledge or scientific advances would probably fall in the pentacles.
With pentacles primarily being money and power (power as a result of wealth).
I mean this is all subjective opinions on symbolism.
My opinions. Yours might differ.
There isn't really any scientific basis for this that I know of.
There is a lot on Wikipedia about the history of the cards though.
Hello. Lemmy is known for having a tech savvy userbase, not so much dabblers in the occult arts. Please don't let that dissuade you - I would be searching for a community with an occult bent first. Try any of the find-a-community communities and see where people point you towards.
Having said that, yes I do like the occults even though I can't say I take them seriously like I did in my youth. Traditionally the suit you would be looking for is the swords for the sciences, since the swords are associated with the domain of the mind, judgement, truth, thoughts, etc.
Edit: try !findacommunity@lemmy.ml
... not sure if there are other community finders outside of .ml but that should get you started
Forgot to reply last night my good Mothra, thank you for your help.
I much appreciate your advice to traverse these new lands.
Yet still, your occult knowledge continued the discussion!
Swords vs Pentacles - swords are associated with intellect and challenges of the mind and soul, but pentacles are associated with the material so I feel there's room for them both to be "the sciences". Maybe some sciences fall in the Swords bracket, and others fall in the Pentacles brace! Who knows!
Glad to have crossed paths, regardless
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