Citizens United was a tipping point. If corporations are people and can give without limit to political campaigns, then only corporate choices will win. The others won't even make the ballot. It is 100% a fix.
Was there democracy before Citizens United? Maybe. Certainly more than now.
I'm not super knowledgeable on American donation laws, are there limits to how much a "person" can donate to a campaign? In Canada it's limited to around CAD$3000-$5000 but I guess if corporations (sorry, "people"), can dump tons of cash into campaigns it means there's no limit in the US?
It does.
However, corporations are not people when it comes to consequences.
It's yet another classic example of socialize the risk, privatize the profit.
This. Corporations on paper should have consequences like a person. In practice, they can do whatever they want, because the US Government worships capitalism. More so than the people.
I honestly might make a non-profit that just makes everyone resisting this regime into a corporate entity.
I'ma dumb-fuck so help is needed.
Fun idea, unfortunately what empowers those corporations, besides the system they thrive in, is the fact that they have immense wealth commandeered by a select few, not their sole legal status.
If corporations are people, they should be able to be given the death sentance. I can think of a few that are directly responsible for the deaths of a lot of people, and all they had to do was pay some fines/lawsuits. DuPont comes to mind.
There are limits on how much can be donated to a campaign and how hidden those amounts and donors can be to an extent. But there are no limits on how much somebody not associated or affiliated with the campaign can spend on messaging for the campaign. This is where Super PACs and dark money come in.
Overturn Citizens United.
This is exactly what people said would happen when citizen united happened yet nobody did anything to stop or reverse it. It's not like Democrats didn't have the option to do so, they just didn't care either
What the US needs is a parliamentary democracy
That is, besides it needing to break up into 50 independent countries because it's obvious by now that a few of the states are dead set of fucking everyone else over just to ensure their racism, bigotry, and religion gets forced down everyone's throat everywhere.
Let it break in into independent states, and the red states will turn into third world banana republic dictatorships within a few years and won't be able to feed their own population. They'll get what they want for themselves and the rest of the US states can independently continue becoming civilized nations.
Um.... no
No, you aren’t, and haven’t been for my entire fucking life.
The U.S. has never been a democracy, never mind within our lifetimes. If voting is all that’s required to be a democracy then so are both China and Russia.
Gerrymandering, the practise of drawing funky voting districts to skew the results has been a practise since the early 1800s. Even so, votes don’t count on an individual basis.
In essence, politicians can manipulate districts to ensure that they come out as a majority despite having a minority base. If your vote loses in a district, it essentially doesn’t count. Further, if you win, it doesn’t go towards a presidential candidate, it goes to a some dipshit electorate who is meant to represent your voice in a separate vote, but they could decide to vote against your interests anyway. Then there’s the whole two party system aspect.
I get why people don’t vote. It’s entirely pointless because the system is a sham. The only winning move is to break it down and build something new.
Couldn’t agree more.
However, yea, votes don’t count on an individual basis, that’s inherent to any decision making system that evenly splits decision making power between thousands of people of not millions (if not billions if you’d even hope for an actual world wide democracy)
That’s even the whole point of it. And no, I don’t mean that in the sense of how liberal democracies with unbridled capitalism make the average vote/voice meaningless compared to what a billionaire can achieve by spending only the tinyest fraction of his wealth. Indeed, a true democracy would and should make the individual vote/voice of any individual by theirselves meaningless, and that should include billionaires, self-serving autocrats and what not.
The US was never really a democracy. It's an oligarchy.
“No.” Responds everyone that tired of stupid fucking question like this- in place of actual action.
Shit or get off the pot- ALL OF YOU.
Vivian Wilson should run for city council just to watch her father squirm
Was really hoping he would realize he's old as fuck and just go full out calling for violent revolution. There is still time.
If you’re asking this stupid fucking question you’re already too late. These people live on a different planet
Yeah, let’s no longer discuss it. The oligarchs won. Accept it, losers. Stop talking about it and go about your lives. Discussing it just makes you look like you’re a real idiot! Give up already. America is no longer a democracy. Stop expecting it to be. Pay attention, understand what’s happened, and then let that be as far as it goes for you. There is no point. We have no power. Roll over and die.
We are fighting harder than I hope you ever have to. When your city is under siege and 3000 masked criminals are running around the streets you grew up on UNCHECKED murdering and kidnapping your friends, then come talk to me. Motherfucker I’ve looked these fuckers in the eye and been trampled and gassed. We are bringing shit to people who are in hiding full on Anne Frank style. And you have the temerity to come on here, make assumptions, and tell me I’ve given up?? Why don’t YOU do something other than talk? Rot in hell. My issue is with someone asking if we are still a democracy. From where I’m sitting that is an asinine question. Fascism is already here. And I don’t really feel like hearing from anyone who is still leaving us here to deal with it on our own. And don’t call out my attitude, I no longer sleep or eat and couldn’t give a fuck.
Considering the op, it is a q asked in bad faith
Actshually the question is asked by Sanders.
Of course it’s clearly some kind of rhetorical question.
How does a rhetorical question help your statement? How does a rhetorical q asked in bad faith make anything better?
What are you really getting at?
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