I see a lot of piefed posts on Lemmy - are we not federated across so that we're getting the milk without needing to buy the cow?

I have no idea. I'm a vanilla, semi-norm who came from Reddit, mainly because they banned me after 15 years of active and mostly chill engagement.

I'm basically just a slightly opinionated guy who's interested in what other people have to say on a variety of subjects.

I'm only dimly aware of PieFeed. I like lemmy as it feels like early Reddit and I access it through the boost app on Android, which was the peak Reddit experience before they locked down the APIs.

I've no interest in spreading myself over multiple platforms - I just want access to other humans via the path of least resistance.

With this in mind, is PieFace better? And if so, in what way?

Why vs when we can just interop?

We are not like traditional websites. When one community does well, we can all do well.

Piefed users comment and post to lemmy and via versa.

The number one issue with the fediverse in general is the tiny stagnant user base. Everything else is way too insignificant to matter. People could make as many fediverse platforms as they want, it doesn't mean anything if nobody is using them.

I used Lemmy for a few years, but switched to PieFed recently. They offer very similar functionality. PieFed suits me slightly better. I would be happy with either. And I'm still using Voyager.

I picked Mbin

I switched to piefed to help it grow, although for me the lemmy experience is still superior, due to the difference in clients available for Android.

On Android, the Voyager Lemmy client is better than the Blorp Piefed client.

Since the blorp Dev reads these comments (thanks for making us free software!), here's my list of features to bring blorp up to parity, from most to least important:

1. Choose what type of link to share by default: community link, poster's link, my instance link, or blorp link, or other.... Currently when I want to share something, I have to open it on Voyager to get a link.
2. Ability to select text in comments. Voyager has this in the context menu.
3. Ability to hide read posts. Blorp has this setting but it doesn't work. When I open piefed I see old posts, but on Voyager I see fresh stuff.
4. Ability to download .webp images. Downloads fail, but I can "share" the file to a file manager and save it that way.
5. Put the profile button on the bottom stripe so it is easier to reach.

we should make a new one and then make a new one again so that the community is split into smaller and smaller pieces with less users and the whole fediverse thing can be less interesting overall

Lemmy is established, having existed very long before. But also they work together. So unless you have some major issue there's no real reason to up and switch.

Having two softwares actually contributes to the decentralizing of the fediverse IMO, as long as we don't devolve into tribalism and attacks between the two that deter new users....

My understanding is that PieFed gives you access to everything on Lemmy without directly supporting tankies.

PieFed, which i used first, is harder to navigate. It seems to have blocked a lot of content from other instances and i'm not sure why

I like both. The main thing keeping me from using piefed is it's atrocious image viewer though. I like how Lemmy just spits out the image when you click the thumbnail.

Piefed Game Changer number 1: Custom feeds, ex:

• https://piefed.social/f/highsignal
• https://piefed.social/f/highmemecontent

that way I can look at non-tech non-politics stuff (either few memes or all memes) when I want.

Piefed Game Changer number 2: Scheduled posts. That way when I got free time I can make a bunch of posts and schedule them over the next couple days or weeks.

I still keep a Lemmy account bc a couple things are still easier there. Plus to see what the posts look like to other people.

Piefed has some neat features unique to it, such as:

• a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
• the ability to combine comments from multiple communities under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
• the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.

On the sysadmin side of things, it'd bring some nice advantages regarding network resource usage and page loading speed, and benefits from using tried and tested industry standard frameworks (I.e, Flask), instead of bespoke solutions.

I’ve been testing both for some time and the differences are pretty minor. What I really like about PieFed comes down to two things: how it groups cross-posts and their comments (on the web version), and the moderation tools. The downside is that there are a lot fewer mobile apps that support it.

Cross-posting is an amazing feature that’s still massively underused.

I don't really understand the difference between the two. Don't they essentially do the same thing, connect to the same communities, etc? (Apart from some minor details)

I like piefed.

I dont have a client, just the web ui in my phones browser is fine.

It honestly just feels exactly like lemmy to me, but I prefer not to support lemmy for ideological reasons.

I'm on Lemmy (db0) because, at the time, I thought PieFed was just another instance, and I chose the instance I liked best without much thought behind what software it ran.

db0 has talked about spinning up a PieFed instance, but I would have to join it and I'd have two accounts. I'm not sure I want to manage two accounts. AFAIK they are not talking about converting to PieFed (if such a thing is possible).

On the tech side, the two mostly federate with one another. I (maybe mistakenly) called out a PieFed user for not posting a link. They thought they did. And they did — it was visible on PieFed, but it was not visible to Lemmy. So they apologised and posted the link in the body of their text, and I apologised for not understanding how things worked. So that is an issue Lemmy (the people who make the software) would have to address, and then db0 would have to update the code on their server (I believe).

So I think as long as they continue to federate to one another, it's fine to just use what you want. If one starts to pull ahead and the other is not catching up, it might be wise to switch, especially if there is a way to pull all your subscriptions, blocks, and managed communities from one to the other.

I have no idea about the ethics of using either.

Piefed has some critical features like, non-nsfw blur, flairs, ability to disable notifications from relies on posts and more information is exposed to admins.