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[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The real obsolete media player.

The year is 1987, Christmas has just pasaed. This baby gets plugged in down in the finished basement. You and your older brother are sitting down on the carpet for the first time to check out this game, Super Mario Bros. Your only gaming experience so far has been the Atari 2600 and C64...

Now this is classy.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My grandma (who lived about a 12 hr. way) had one of these growing up and I always loved it. I was disappointed one year to find that it had been replaced since it quit working.

I'm also reminded of my mother who, no joke, brought one of these home from the landfill. It didn't work, but she gutted it and turned it into a bed for our little dog we had at the time. In hindsight, she's probably very lucky she didn't hurt or poison herself in the process.

I would love to get one of these to use in like a multi-purpose gaming setup. Like use this as the TV stand for the newer TV so I can play newer and older games in the same place.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

In hindsight, she's probably very lucky she didn't hurt or poison herself in the process

How come? A tiny circuit board isn't anything like thin vials of mercury or the like.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

CRT tvs have pretty big capacitors that zap you good and hard if you touch em funny.

Older boxes are probably long since dishcharged BUT many many tinkerers will plug it in first to see if it still works just for shits and grins and those caps will take juice given the chance….

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[-] naticus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I only see a TV stand without a TV.

[-] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

Because VHS/CRT was such a fucking hassle even when it was the best possible format option for home media. The dawn of LCDs and DVD was a glorious thing.

[-] worhui@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The dawn of LCD's sucked. They were inferior to CRT in most ways, they were bigger and lighter. They eventually got better and cheaper and that is when they took off.

DVD was a day 1 upgrade over vhs for watching movies.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I have a laptop from the mid 90s that looks like mouse trails are on even when they aren’t. This is why mouse trails exist, because early LCDs sucked that bad.

[-] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Was, "Be kind, rewind" really that much of a hassle?

[-] Zexks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes. So much so they made completely seperate machines to rewind vhs tapes so your one vcr could continue to do other things at the same time.

[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 points 1 week ago

Binging movies wasn't much of a thing back then; I can't remember a single time when I wanted to immediately put another video in after just finishing one. Plus it took like 5 minutes to rewind one - I'd usually run to the bathroom and grab a snack and it'd be done by the time I got back. It wasn't any longer than a commercial break, and we were all used to that back then. I remember I once mowed the lawn 5 minutes at a time during commercial breaks because I didn't want to miss the show I was watching, haha!

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[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

VHS wasn’t the best format even when it came out. VHS was specifically designed to be a middle ground between quality and affordability. That’s partly why it succeeded in the consumer market, both the tape and the player were cheaper than the other formats of the day. Beta and LaserDisc both had better picture and sound quality but both had their own drawbacks as well as cost. CEDs were cheaper than LaserDisc and predated VHS by several years but didn’t have the industry acceptance of the other formats and had similar drawbacks.

[-] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I had never heard of CED and researching it led me to the knowledge that laserdisc was originally called Discovision.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago

There's a weird debate about the audio quality on VHS. Under the right conditions (right tape, right player, right source) it could be shockingly good -- perhaps even better than CD audio, despite not being remembered terribly fondly.

If you really want to wow the ladies, be the one guy with a music collection on VHS.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Better than CD is a pretty bold claim. That format is near perfect for listening quality.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A VHS physically can’t be better than CD audio. The tape would have to move faster than the VHS equipment is designed for. The Hi-Fi VHS audio system can come close to CD’s frequency range, but there is still about 70 dB signal-to-noise (compared to CD’s 98 dB), and there is always loss when writing to and reading from analog tape. CD is not destructively read, so any signal up to 22KHz will be reproducible the exact same way every time.

Hi-Fi VHS audio is nearly as good as CD audio (the best consumer analog audio format, in fact), but it’s not as good. The simple fact is that an appropriately comparably sampled digital PCM recording will always beat an analog recording. You can read about the Nyquist-Shannon theorem for an actual proof, but basically CD audio is near-perfect for almost every human’s hearing range (most people can’t hear above 20KHz).

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[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

Don’t fret. In 20 years’ time future hipsters will romanticize bleeding colors, dogshit resolution and subpar color space and call it “so much nicer to watch”.

[-] Godort@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Video games have been doing that for over a decade at this point

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[-] observes_depths@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago

It's gotto be real analogue vintage

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 1 week ago

Records and their players are tangible. You don't need any electricity to play a record. It is a kind of magic the human mind can comprehend.

VHS tapes and cathode ray tubes on the other hand work with magnets and quantum physics and shit. Nobody knows how they fucking work.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, there's something about the physicality of a record player and records that changes the experience. At least for me it encourages more focus on the listening. Even if you just put something on while you do something else, you're going to be interacting with again before super long.

The record, the part you interact with, has size and weight. It's definitively a "thing". And choosing a record is a choice. You can't just press some buttons on a remote and change to whatever else (unless it's a full music system setup).

Plus the beautiful art on the sleeves, and the time it takes to get the record out forces you to spend at least a little time with that art.

With a CRT TV, you're using a remote and there's a lot more abstraction and layers between the physical object holding the content and your actual consumption of it.

VHS tapes are physical, but the moving parts that make it all work are hidden away in the VCR and the magnetic tape isn't really touchable. Playing one on most TVs required another device plugged into the TV and pressing some buttons on one or two remotes that could just as easily bring you other content without ever leaving your seat.

There is art on the VHS case, but it's not like it takes time to get the tape in and out, so you're not as likely to look at it for long.


Most importantly, people are still making new record players and records. There was a long while where it was a very niche thing, and there weren't a lot of new records coming out, but there were still new players coming out. And the technology is simple enough that the average person could at least keep a player in working order or fix the most common issues themselves. Enthusiasts could even "fix" an old machine with modern parts that are readily available, as long as they function the same. It's not like people are going to stop making electric motors anytime in the next century.

CRTs simply aren't manufactured anymore. Depending on the issue they aren't end user servicable for the average person, or even most enthusiasts. Maintenance is potentially dangerous to the person doing the work. The parts have limited lifespans with no replacements available for the main bits. If the electron guns start to go, you can potentially rejuvanate them with special equipment, or you can end up breaking a damaged one entirely (see 10:32 of this video about restoring an old arcade cabinet).

It's the same (sans danger to the person doing the repair) for VCRs. No new stock, specialized parts that can't be swapped for more readily availble modern components, you get the picture.

And that's also not considering the fucking weight of a good size CRT compared to a record player.


Don't get me wrong. I love CRTs. Pretty sure I still have my childhood one in my basement, complete with some discoloration from when my 8 year old self had some fun with magnets.

I was legitimately distraught when my wife talked me into only keeping one of the three CRT TVs we had gathering dust, and I think I still have one or two CRT monitors stashed away somewhere.

I spent multiple weekends years ago looking up and configuring the best CRT shader for emulators so it looked like an idealized version of that childhood TV.

But I entirely get why records and record players are such strong and well thought of "nostalgia bait" and CRTs and VHS tapes are not.

[-] affenlehrer@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Degaussing a CRT is also a magical experience

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

BAWWWWWWNNNN

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

You don’t need any electricity to play a record

Are we talking about the hand-cranked players from the olden days?

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, but you can also spin a modern player and just listen closely to the needle.

[-] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Don't do that - that's really bad for the vinyls and your stylus

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

My cheapo one has a short gap where it will start spinning before the speakers catch up and I can listen that way guilt free. You can also just turn the volume of the speakers all the way down, but that's not nearly as disorienting as hearing a half second of the audio all small and tiny and not coming from the right place.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Wanna come by my place later and check out my... Sony Trinitron?

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yes. I really do.

Don’t expect anything sexy or nothin’, I’m genuinely in this for the Trinitron. Do you have retro consoles or should I bring mine?

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Metal Gear Solid ruined me.

I can't see the VIDEO text of the OSD without thinking of the HIDEO fourth wall break during the Psycho Mantis scrap.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Try playing Control with all the settings maxed out on 540p and have it be the most amazing looking game you've ever seen

[-] wallabra@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 week ago

I mean I think CRTs are going back into vogue as a nifty thing in many indie circles, including on YouTube where you see a lot of smaller creators embracing the aesthetic nowadays.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile the hardcore smash community never left crt because latency.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Mhm but aren't suitcase vinyl record players pretty bad?

yeah, especially any made this century. complete shite.

[-] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

My first thought too. I love records, my record setup is where nearly all of my hobby money goes into, but I’d never recommend a suitcase player to anyone. I don’t have a ton of hobby money to spend so my setup isn’t super expensive or anything but I did make sure to get a nice player at least. Low-to-mid range speakers and pre-amps and stuff can still be okay, especially these days the lower end is getting a lot better, but a cheap player can do actual damage to a record over time.

If someone reading this is looking to get into the hobby, do yourself a favour and save up a bit for the player. You can get cheap speakers and all that and upgrade later but a bad player can ruin your records over time, especially if you spin them regularly. I personally have a Pro-Ject Debut III, you can switch between a built-in pre-amp or an external one, so you can start with the built-in one and then get a dedicated one later on to help with initial costs, and Pro-Ject makes excellent players. Zero plastic anywhere except the dust cover, European company and hand made in Europe, so you’re not supporting American business if that’s important to you, and even their lower end players are still very well made with all the features you’d want (adjustable anti-skate and counterweight, switch between 33/45/78 rpm, soft drop for the needle so it doesn’t hurt the record, high quality materials, comes with a pretty decent diamond cartridge, etc) plus they tend to be pretty easily upgradable. Audio-Technica is also supposedly pretty good at that price range but I never found one I loved, meanwhile every Pro-Ject I’ve messed around with has been a genuine pleasure to operate. I’m not an expert but I do have a bit of a hobbyist knowledge and experience if anyone has questions.

[-] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

people would love crt tvs. i have hounding me for crts

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

VHS next to DVD on a CRT is why lol.

Good sound fidelity is easier to reach on a vinyl record than good video fidelity on magnetic tape. Hence why even old TV shows that were shot on film look great on modern TVs, but their tape counterparts look dated.

That all being said, VHS has inherently more sentimental value due to its widespread use for personal and home video. Anyone still using vinyl is either a hobbyist, collector, or moronic audiophile who can't cope with stuff like opus or even flac/wav.

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[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've been thinking for years now about picking up one again that can run RockBox. Used to live out of an iPod nano with that, and didn't have to carry flash drives. Just plug the usb cable into a computer and use it as one. A lot of modern music apps still aren't as fully featured when it comes to on the fly playlist creation.

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