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submitted 3 months ago by Charger8232@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Privacy for me has been incredibly rewarding, but when talking to people who haven't been introduced to privacy, there are occasionally some moments that make it exhausting. One conversation in particular is one that I've had to go through dozens of times, and it always goes along these lines:

  • Alice: Why is your phone in airplane mode? / What's your phone number?
  • Bob: I don't have a carrier.
  • Alice: But you have a phone.
  • Bob: Yes.
  • Alice: How do you not have a carrier?
  • Bob: Phones can come without a carrier.
  • Alice: What do you use it for?
  • Bob: Everything you use yours for.
  • Alice: How do you talk to people?
  • Bob: Messaging apps over Wi-Fi.
  • Alice: What if you don't have Wi-Fi?
  • Bob: Public Wi-Fi is everywhere. If I don't have Wi-Fi, I likely don't need to get in touch.
  • Alice: What about emergencies?
  • Bob: I can still contact emergency services.

Each time it happens, it has a unique flavor. One person accused me of lying and then fraud. I know people are just curious and don't mean to be rude, but it makes me die a little inside every time someone asks. I've begun trying to sidestep the conversation entirely:

  • Alice: Why is your phone in airplane mode?
  • Bob: To save battery.

or:

  • Alice: What's your phone number?
  • Bob: You can contact me with an app called Signal.

People seem to think that a phone automatically comes with a carrier and that it'll stop working if you don't have one. In reality, I'm saving hundreds of dollars per year while avoiding spam, fraud, breaches, surveillance, and being chronically online. People have a hard time coping with those who do things a little differently.

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[-] Clairvoidance@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

hundreds of dollars per year? That's how much a carrier is over there??

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

I'm on a popular discount carrier, and it's ~$30/month. One of the big three carriers will easily charge $100/month.

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[-] axus@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm paying over $100 per month for 3 lines. 4th line is $6 a month from Tello

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[-] juspie@piefed.ca 7 points 3 months ago

Your pain is so very relatable, pal 😢

[-] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

I've only met a handful of people that don't question it and just accept my personal choices. One person even tried stepping in when someone asked for my email to tell them I didn't have one. I do have email, but the gesture was still nice. Those are the ones worth keeping around.

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[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

I’ve never had someone ask me for my phone number. They usually ask me to text them, at which point they have my (throw away) number.

Everyone is totally unaware when I’m de-carriered.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I did something similar with an old spare phone for a while when my actual phone screen stopped working. I carried both around, but I found 90% of my use cases didn't involve phone calls or even texting.

I do find it convenient to have my phone connected to tailscale so I can access my home network from anywhere.

And I don't necessarily trust public wifi.

But otherwise, I fully support this and think it's entirely viable for most people.

[-] ragas@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Setup a VPN to your home router and use that when you are on a public wifi. That way all your traffic is fully encypted through the public wifi.

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[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 3 months ago

People seem to think that a phone automatically comes with a carrier and that it'll stop working if you don't have one.

Not all phones have a carrier, but 99% of them need one if you want to make normal phone calls.

[-] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Technology can be adapted to everyone's unique workflow.

Yours is a highly specialised one, that apparently works for you. Something i may try for a day or two, but am confident can never adapt to my work flow. (Only know 2 "free" WiFi spots in my town. One wants an account. The other wants a phone number)

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