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submitted 3 months ago by Charger8232@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Privacy for me has been incredibly rewarding, but when talking to people who haven't been introduced to privacy, there are occasionally some moments that make it exhausting. One conversation in particular is one that I've had to go through dozens of times, and it always goes along these lines:

  • Alice: Why is your phone in airplane mode? / What's your phone number?
  • Bob: I don't have a carrier.
  • Alice: But you have a phone.
  • Bob: Yes.
  • Alice: How do you not have a carrier?
  • Bob: Phones can come without a carrier.
  • Alice: What do you use it for?
  • Bob: Everything you use yours for.
  • Alice: How do you talk to people?
  • Bob: Messaging apps over Wi-Fi.
  • Alice: What if you don't have Wi-Fi?
  • Bob: Public Wi-Fi is everywhere. If I don't have Wi-Fi, I likely don't need to get in touch.
  • Alice: What about emergencies?
  • Bob: I can still contact emergency services.

Each time it happens, it has a unique flavor. One person accused me of lying and then fraud. I know people are just curious and don't mean to be rude, but it makes me die a little inside every time someone asks. I've begun trying to sidestep the conversation entirely:

  • Alice: Why is your phone in airplane mode?
  • Bob: To save battery.

or:

  • Alice: What's your phone number?
  • Bob: You can contact me with an app called Signal.

People seem to think that a phone automatically comes with a carrier and that it'll stop working if you don't have one. In reality, I'm saving hundreds of dollars per year while avoiding spam, fraud, breaches, surveillance, and being chronically online. People have a hard time coping with those who do things a little differently.

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[-] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

How do you use signal without a phone number? I last time i installed, i couldn't use it without a phone number. I tried virtual numbers and couldn't get an account for signal

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[-] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

I almost downloaded a phone thingy online to use for these silicon valley parasites, and like amazon, but on the security warnings I backed off.

What is the best way to securely get a phone number to use and keep, for free, online? Can one do that with signal? I thought you needed a working phone number for that?

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Airalo also exists if your phone supports eSIM.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Weird take, I have two phones and only one has service. The iPhone. My Android phone is older, and it works just fine over WiFi. I've disabled cellular in settings. So it's now functionally a tablet. And before you ask if I have the phone app on my dock, I don't have a dock. It's actually being used as an Animal Crossing cosplay prop. It has a NookPhone case, and while it does have a different wallpaper, the apps have Animal Crossing themed icons. So NookMusic is Apple Music, Messaging is Telegram, Passport is my Animal Crossing item/collectible tracking app (which also has links to my island/character), stuff like that. But I mean, you can swipe up and get the app drawer, and see all the apps installed. It even uses the iPhone gesture controls (Samsung offers this natively in the settings), because the NookPhone doesn't have the Back/Home/Task buttons.

When it's on, if it can't find my home WiFi, it hops on my iPhone's hotspot feature. It has signal most places. (And while it doesn't have Signal installed, AFAIK, my iPhone does.)

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Wait, you need a phone # for signal...i thought.

Also, this method only works for people in massive cities (1mil+). Less than that good luck getting wifi. That is too much of a massive convenience for little gain, if they want to find you, they will. They'll just tap into your family or your neighbors phone.

Say you get lost or run out of gas. Gonna a call 911 every time that happens? What if youre on the way to a friend's house and they call and tell you they have to cancel or they need you to pick up something for them?

Yes, I lived before cell phones were a thing. But I cant imagine many people would put up with you. At least get a damn Jitterbug!

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[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

What about it you need to call a business like a bank, restaurant, etc?

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[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Public WiFi and privacy in the same sentence? lolololol! You use McAfee too?

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Using public wifi with no protections is already pretty secure since most things are encrypted now days. Using a trusted vpn to encrypt all of your traffic makes it almost perfect, since no people in the same network as you can have the faintest clue as to what your doing.

edit: It's probably not almost perfect but definetly far better than using mobile data.

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