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[-] mikenurre@lemmy.world 98 points 1 month ago

Once these countries leave, they'll never go back. And then the rest of us get better alternatives to this enshitification model.

[-] Pechente@feddit.org 46 points 1 month ago

Seriously, enshitification is the only thing US companies do well these days. They just dig deeper moats around their walled gardens because they’re too greedy to make decent products that people actually want.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 32 points 1 month ago

Enshittification, AI slop and fascism are America's greatest exports. And that's not even a joke.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

We grow pretty good weed too, that isn't nothing.

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[-] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 18 points 1 month ago

I think enshitification is a product of public traded companies promising infinite growth, not necessarily a problem of US only companies.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It's also a consequence of low taxes on capital gains and corporate profits.

When those taxes were higher it made more sense to reinvest the profits back into your own company. You'd build a reputation and a structure that would pay out you and your family for a hundred years.

Now the dream is to build up a company just enough to sell it to some megacorp and cash out asap, with you and your family living off of investment money that only increases over time.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Once these countries leave, they’ll never go back.

Look up LiMux and the massive Microsoft deal that followed.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

No, please stop with this garbage misinformation. Microsoft made a (suspected) under the table deal with the Munich government at the time to setup a Microsoft office in Munich if they switched back to Windows.

That's what the news reported on endlessly. That's the narrative that keeps getting falsely repeated over and over, and no one ever checks the BS stories they spread.

The rest of the story didn't make headlines, where the new incoming Munich government said "hell no!" (prob in German) and continued the Linux rollout.

Today the environment is a mix of Linux and Windows, but they already have a large focus on FOSS software.

Despite the astonishingly stupid decision to roll their own in-house distro (LiMux), the program was massively successful, with Linux users filling only 40% the number of tickets the Windows users did.

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[-] Bababasti@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

That deal that totally had nothing to do with Microsoft relocating their headquarters closer to Munich

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

The Bavarian state government is still entirely in Microslop's pocket

[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not surprised. From what I've heard from pretty much every German person I've talked to, Bavaria is basically their Texas (read UP if you're Indian, not sure about analogies for other countries).

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[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While I would love to see them never going back, here in Germany, all it takes is some corrupt politician taking a huge bribe from a lobbyist and swoosh, they are back to Microslop.

Edit: Knowing our little corrupt fuckers in charge in German politics, the bribe probably doesn't even have to be mediocre.

[-] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 38 points 1 month ago

Now replace Windows with Linux, and fucking invest into not needing to use American-controlled CPUs as every single one of them contains a backdoor.

I don't understand why governments trust official matters in the hands of closed source software and suspicious hardware. Even China uses a special version of Windows 11 in public computers, this is nuts.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

and fucking invest into not needing to use American-controlled CPUs as every single one of them contains a backdoor.

China has been working intensely for at least 2 decades to catch up, and they are still about a decade behind!

Netherlands has ASML which is a huge advantage for European independent manufacturing, but even with that it's an insanely expensive investment to make a realistic competitor to AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Broadcom etc. because they have loads of patents that are hard to avoid, and they have decades of know how. This is not even accounting for the software infra structure that would have to be built almost from scratch.
Chip production is a global enterprise, and even USA isn't independent anymore. They depend on ASML and TSMC for their most popular products in AI, Smartphones, servers, laptops and desktops. And more and more Arm is taking over from Intel/AMD.

What we may be able to do would be using Arm and have TSMC help us with manufacturing. But to make such a project succeed is not an easy thing, we had European computer companies in the 70's and 80's that were heavily subsidized by governments that dominated home markets for several European countries, and they essentially all failed against international competition.
So what we risk if we were required to use a European product funded by EU/European governments would be to have to use an overpriced under-performing technology, that would be a millstone around the neck of all of Europe, making Europe not catch up, but instead fall further behind.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

they have loads of patents that are hard to avoid

China doesn't care about patents of outsiders.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

Seems to me that it’s time for the rest of the world to invalidate US IP and go from there.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

And the rules based international order has been exposed as the wink during a handshake deal. Who cares about patent law?

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[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Kind of funny considering that Visio is the name of another Microsoft product.

ETA: I'm not defending Microsoft's usage of the term 'Visio' here. The French use of that term makes a lot of sense, and Microsoft has an annoying tendency of using and copyrighting very common terms like 'Word' or 'SQL Server'. And France (or the French government) should be allowed to use it for their video conferencing software. I'm just smiling at the idea of some people opening Microsoft Visio by mistake and trying to figure out how to make a call through a diagramming app.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

Microslop can cry about it.

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[-] setsubyou@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It’s also a French word that means video conference (as a shortened form of visioconférence).

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[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 month ago

Anything to ANYTHING to get away from MicrSlop, Google etc. is huge. HUGE!

[-] mrnobody@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

I've called them Gooplesoft now.

Check out Mistral if you want a good nonUS AI.

[-] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 25 points 1 month ago

Good on them, but I Wonder why they can't just build on top of something open source like Nextcloud.

It already has the majority of the Office-365 suite

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I don't know on what it's based on, but it's open source and audited.

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[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 22 points 1 month ago

Nice, replace Microslop Windows too pls.

[-] ivn@jlai.lu 6 points 1 month ago

The gendarmerie has had its own Linux distribution for a while now but that's about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GendBuntu

[-] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

I still don’t understand why half of the US still support a president that is doing a long term damage

[-] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Shows the importance of having a proper primary process. Biden fucked up and dropped out of the race way too late for any democratic candidate to have time to build up hype and momentum. Just being the VP shouldn't make one an automatic default candidate. Harris did pretty bad during the Primary back in 2020, she just was not popular and didn't inspire enough people to go vote.

[-] French75@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Harris did pretty bad during the Primary back in 2020

Harris actually dropped out months before the primaries in 2020. She was something like 16th most popular candidate at the time she withdrew. She was a pretty unpopular AG in California at the time and likely would not have even won her own state primary.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Harris could have won, when she first announced, and then picked the left candidate for VP, her popularity skyrocketed, then cratered as she embraced the policies that had just killed the Biden campaign.

A democrat cannot win on "we're going to be Republicans, but more competent".

Which is exactly what dems are planning when they fund ICE, but ask that the gestapo stop wearing masks.

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Why *less than half

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Lol, replacing one o365 product with one named identically to another o365 product, classic.

[-] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 1 month ago

Came to comment this. I know there are only so many letters, and so many combinations of 4-8 of them, but can we quit naming new things with the name of an old thing?

Finding any details about France's Visio is going to be a cluster.

[-] ztar_473@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 month ago

Visio is [the shorthand of] what the french call a video call

visioconférence

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[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is only a part of france's "LaSuite" (very original name guys), that seemingly will replace every equivalent american service.

https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/

They generally work pretty well (demo on the site) and are a mix of homegrown solutions and rebrands of existing projects like matrix. All of them are open source.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

They should have called it "du coup" for that authentic frenchness.

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[-] BromSwolligans@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

That's great. I wish Visio/Vizio were not such common names for software and hardware. We done did those already. Do something else.

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[-] apftwb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Visio and W....

They need to open up naming to public vote.

Cally McCallface

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

The French use "Visio" kinda like a generic term to talk about a video call (short for visio-conférence), I find that much better already than that W nonsense.

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[-] CactusEcho@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

Why not jitsi meet? Isn't better to use an already "established" opensource conferencing tool?

They could just selfhost their instance.

[-] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

They've been building an entire open source suite of software tailored to their needs. If I had to guess, Jitsi isn't performant enough for large (100+) user meetings in a way they can scale easily. It's a great tool, but it seems better geared towards smaller loads. Video conferencing at scale is a pretty big challenge.

Between this, their new Docs platform and some Matrix-based chat platforms, I think this is something they've put a fair bit of thought into how they want to build. Overall, it's a cool initiative, but I think it's pretty clear that it's open source as a means to be transparent as a government organization rather than to form a platform for broad use by everyone. They do have some self-hosting instructions on their GitHub though.

[-] phx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I was wondering the same, but this does make sense.

At the same time, it might also make sense to build on top of existing FOSS tooling rather than building new, but I suppose that depends on where the bottlenecks are and if stuff like proprietary codecs might be involved

[-] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jitsi is owned by a Campbell, California based firm called 8x8. Source: I worked for them during the acquisition.

Though admittedly avoiding US origin open source is unlikely to be possible. The thing they are using seems to be based on another package with a similar issue.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Why not open source solutions for most of those?

[-] E_coli42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

If is. It's free (orI guess libre makes more sense since they are French) under Apache-2.0

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