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[-] red_tomato@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

The health insurance plans will just raise their prices by another $2000

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 4 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't expect anything else from a Trump Policy - everything he does is to feather the nests of his wealthy supporters. I guarantee this trump-care policy was suggested and supported by health insurers.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Of course. It didn’t change anything and it’s unrealistic.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 month ago

This is the biggest lesson I've learned in adulthood. As a high schooler I said many things like "just go fix it".

Problem is there's always someone who will happily take advantage and ruin something that should be a good thing.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago

This is just a roundabout way of subsidizing the health insurance industry while making his base think he actually did something for them.

[-] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

No that's the ACA. This is just peanuts.

[-] allriledup@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

How does anyone afford anything in the USA? The average health insurance is $26K a year, rent is like $3000 a month, food etc. How the fuck even. I feel bad for the americans who want to effect GOOD change. The ones who want universal healthcare etc. The ones that don't? Suck shit cunts.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago

A lot don't get insurance and just hope they don't die?

[-] allriledup@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

sad, and probably true :/

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago

Literally, yes.

My supervisor at work has 2 broken teeth and one is cracking, he can't have food on his right side of his mouth and about once a month has go eat soft foods because the cracked tooth on his left side hurts again.

Another coworker has a knife wound because he managed to slice his arm open with his own folding knife (not suicidal just stupid), and he's just self-treating even though it looks infected.

I have had bronchitis multiple times in my life when I didn't have any insurance and even when I was so weak it took all my strength to crawl to the bathroom, going without eating for several days because I can't make it downstairs to the kitchen, because just the urgent care visit would have sent me into years of debt.

My sister ignored signs of cancer until her daughter asked her to go to the doctor. It could have been operated on if she had gone earlier. Now it's chemo and fingers crossed.

This shithole country kicks people when they're down andat least 1/3 of the population is polishing the boot as the rich are kicking us.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

I feel bad for the americans who want to effect GOOD change

The worst part is so many americans are convinced that actually most Americans want half good, half bad policy; free healthcare is too far left, but theres definitely a cohort of voters who wont vote for that, but will vote for means-tested subsidies for health insurance companies, and that running on that policy is smarter than running on policy anyone actually wants.

[-] curiousaur@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

I mean, it takes minimum 150k per year to raise a family in the US, so that tracks.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Trump used to support a Canadian-style, single-payer health care plan. However, the closer he got to the presidency, the more he backed away from that. Funny how that works.

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Isn't that basically universal basic income?

[-] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If he does it the proper way yes, but it'll probably be something stupid and strictly controlled to be only insurance

Also ignoring the fact that even if it was $2000 annually no strings attached that still does little, though it would certainly be welcome

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Health insurance would magically become $2k more expensive overnight, so

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

It's one healthcare, Michael. What could it cost? $2000?

[-] roserose56@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago
[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Circuses are cheap, bread is expensive

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Adding $660,000,000,000 to the federal deficit annually and still not making a dent in people's healthcare costs?

A single-payer universal healthcare system would be cheaper, as almost every other country's systems show.

The real trick is to get private equity and for-profit corporations out of healthcare. All they do is drive up costs while lowering outcomes.

Healthcare should be a public service, funded by the government.

[-] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, the US actually pays more PUBLIC funds per person than most other nations. Then the private cost on top - all for worse health outcomes.

We need more Luigis just from a financial perspective.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

as almost every other country’s systems show

You can take out the "almost" here. Literally every other country on Earth pays half or less per capita than what we pay in the US, and this has been the case for decades.

[-] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wait... when the government gives people money... that sounds like... SOCIALISM.

This is to point out his hypocrisy, not even to note that this is a stupid way of distributing money (it just goes into the hands of middle men) and only intends to generate some good sounding news instead of actually solving a problem

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I can't tell if this is sarcastic, but I'll respond the same way regardless.

This is not socialism. Government provided social programs or financial assistance are a basic function of governance. Virtually every government on Earth does this, whether democratic, authoritarian, or communist.

[-] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

I think they're playing by the conservative alarmists' definition of 'socialism.'

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Can we call it pedo care?

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Why does the health insurance industry even exist?

That's a question Americans are prevented from having because it would offend Ayn Rand or something.

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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Republican healthcare plan can be sum up as "get fucked and die you dirty peasant".

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

In other news most countries only pay 3 to 5% of their income for universal healthcare but sure we’ll see how Pedo Care works out for Americans

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[-] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How can there still RELATIVELY many people be able to have kids financially? The fertility rate in most european countries in comparison is lower, although we have affordable healthcare (well, compared to the US at least).

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[-] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He just wants another excuse to send individuals checks with his name on it. Could be a good opportunity to virtue signal as well if the plan winds up being exclusionary toward singles or other groups.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

26,000 for a high deductible plan.

So you can get 2k, to spend 26K, to spend 10K in deductibles before insurance covers a damn thing.

Health insurance premiums are going to cost $28000 from now on.

[-] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Trump is a gold spoon fed moron who's entirely disconnected from reality. That mofo talked about groceries like it's an afternoon club or some shit. He probably never ever even stepped into a supermarket and bought a fucking loaf of bread and something else himself. It's why he fucking has no idea how healthcare even works in America, when he had COVID they just pumped shit into him to keep his zombie body alive and he didn't even twitch even the slightest for how much that would cost. Meanwhile rest of people avoid calling an ambulance because that will cost so much it can bankrupt them. Tell me how that isn't absolutely fucked.

I live in Slovenia (Europe) and while our healthcare system isn't perfect either, not once I worried that my medical condition would set me back financially for 5 or 10 years. It just doesn't cross our minds, like at all ever. You just get in touch with doctors and they sort it out based on severity. If it's something non critical you might wait few weeks or months if it's something trivial or cosmetic, but if it's something urgent they'll send you to ER immediately and do most complex procedures asap. So it's not just "you need to wait for months because it's "free" healthcare". It is prioritized and it's perfectly understandable and logical.

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

The entire argument about universal healthcare taking months to see a doctor is doubly trash because it took me that long to see a doctor in the US anyways. I had to plan my general practitioner visits out 3-4 months in advance and I was on meds that needed represcribed every three months so some months I simply missed it because how long the waits were

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Like all arguments in dumb asshole America, we can't have a real argument where the basic concept of triage exists.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Absolutely unrelated, but you mentioned being from Slovenia and it reminds me of a kid I work with (in the US.) When he was 4, I showed him a map of the world. Out of all the places on it, he zeroed in on Slovenia and asked, "What's that?" I told him, "That's Slovenia." Something about your country caught his attention, I can't explain it.

The kid's an information sponge. Ever since then, when I mention things about the rest of the world (countries, flags, time zones, etc.) he becomes curious about Slovenia.

So yeah, your country has a special place in a random little boy's heart. I just wanted to share that.

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