Functionally, not really. I can get my work done on anything from FVWM to GNOME without a hitch.

Aesthetically, very much. The Chicago95 theme sparks joy and makes work just a bit more enjoyable. KDE and GNOME might have more creature comforts, but I will happily tolerate XFCE because it works well with Chicago95. I don't even do fresh installs anymore because of the time it takes for me to configure the visual style just right. I'll instead image from an install I've prepared on a VM.

Still to this day I switch DEs/WMs every so often to try and find that right "fit". I think that's the biggest minor issue with Linux right now. IMHO there's not a single perfect DE. I like KDE, everything just works, BUT how workspaces/virtual desktops work with multiple monitors is an absolute pain. Yes I'm aware with the update coming this month it'll improve slightly but all I want from it is to have each monitor have it's own set of dedicated workspaces like every other WM has. KDE just won't do that regardless of the fact it's been asked for for like 20 years now.

So I constantly end up switching. Niri, Hyprland, Plasma, whatever. None of them feel perfect and they all have their deal breaker quirks that I tolerate for awhile until I just can't and end up switching. Like for example on Niri with some games when scrolling through windows and going back to the game it doesn't pick up the mouse immediately so you have to do a quick switch to either another window and back or another workspace and back. similar issue with Hyprland except it's with the keyboard instead of the mouse. Sway has similar issues. Hyprland I don't like how workspaces work with multiple monitors either.

This is just the nature of Linux overall. sometimes you just have to tolerate the minor issues for the overall better performance/features. and it doesn't just apply to DEs/WMs. there's rarely anything on Linux that is the total package and 100% everything you want. Take terminals for example. Alacritty is great, fast, responsive...doesn't do images. Kitty is awesome with images, gpu stuff, fast, smooth...doesn't work great with tmux/multiplexers cause the dev hates them. or how about editors? DOOM Emacs has all the features I could ever want...slow as shit on startup. Lazyvim is fantastic with all the plugins available...absolute pain in the ass to get working 100% on my distro NixOS. I could go on and on. none of these are absolute dealbreakers just minor annoyances that make me constantly switch things.

So I completely 100% hear you. you like GNOME, it's your preferred DE, BUT the potential issues with Steam Frame and VR are a deal breaker. And those things work on KDE BUT you're just not happy with how KDE works overall. I get it man. I'm not a fan of GNOME but I get it. I mean give hyprland a shot but try it out with the defaults first before you invest too much time into configuring it and then finding there's like one or two things that just won't work. I've done that before. spent hours configuring like Sway or something to my liking and then finding out one particular application just doesn't play well with it. It's frustrating. Good luck.

I’m also trying to enjoy KDE as everyone is praising it and Gnome lacks a tiny bit of customization.

But I really prefer Gnome and feel really different than everyone on Lemmy.

So yeah a DE is more important than the distro to me.

Like others have said, it's very dependent on work flows and personal preference.

I dislike the MacOS interface. Gnome and its derivatives aren't that, but it borrows enough design cues that I don't find it intuitive. (Though I recognize why other people do find it intuitive.)

Most other DEs jive with me. I can effortlessly switch between Plasma or XFCE. I like Enlightenment and LXQT, but generally don't go for them first. Cinnamon is fine, but I like most others more.

I like to play with things. I'll get my hands on a beat-up old laptop, try a few distros and desktop environments on it, then find it a new home. Linux makes it great to experiment like that.

I've been using Linux for considerably longer, and I started off with things like BB4Win (meant to mimic the Blackbox window manager but on Windows) before I switched, so I was constantly trying different UI experiences and seeking out more customization options even before moving to Linux. Part of the Winamp, "skin all the things," generation. Switching DEs is a non-issue these days but I have my preferences. I loved old Gnome 2 so I found Cinnamon nice enough. xfce too. I don't dislike current Gnome but I've settled in to KDE these day. I lived in Xmonad for a while so I'll also happily take any TWM that preferably isn't it's own hobby project to configure and maintain.

It's an important software choice just like choosing a browser (though unfortunately browser choices are much more limited these days).

I usually see people discussing distros but I feel like picking the right DE makes much bigger impact.

Yes I do feel like the emphasis is often wrong; choosing a distro should be about choosing a philosophy towards included packages and updates, choosing a DE is much more relevant for day-to-day user experience/workflow.

Interface matters a ton, of course. But once you switch between a few it gets easier, even if you retain your preferences.

After 2y on Linux I can say with full confidence that switching from GNOME to KDE (for me) is a bigger barrier than switching from Windows to Linux ever was.

Huh?

How's that a bigger barrier?

You install it, you select it from your login("display") manager on next login, et viola, you're using it... and you still have access to all your prior installed programs too. No backup required, no complete operating system install, no great leap of learning an entirely different operating system paradigm, no reading new software licenses... it's just install it, and log in to it.

How important is a DE to you?

None at all.

Xmonad's been my fave since around 2007-2008ish.

Tried dozens of other window managers. [Special honourable mention to herbstluftwm.]

Tried over half the desktop environments too.

Much more nice without unnecessary clutter and resource wastage and faff of a desktop environment, and just a window manager.

And, as for trying new DE/WM, and needing to log out and back in to try them... even that hurdle can be eliminated. ;) There be ways to switch them without losing everything you're currently running. https://codeberg.org/Digit/wminizer

Try cosmic, its very smooth and just works.

I guess its more simular to gnome than to kde so you should like it.

Critically. Its the face of the operating system, and I'm shallow enough to put a lot of value on a pretty face

I prefer Gnome aesthetically, but I value more KDE's speed to implement gaming related features.

The importance of choosing the right DE is quite low for me because, with daily use, I can get accustomed to any new environment. It’s uncomfortable at first, but it can be done and, eventually, it grows on me.

In my case, I'm used to window managers because they improve my current workflow; however, the most intuitive DE for me is GNOME. I love its gestures, aesthetics, and functionality.

Super important. I do also choose a DE first and look for a distro that supports it out of the box second.

This being said, while I think Gnome looks amazing, it's whole UX is killing me. I tried it over and over again, because it looks so beautyful. But it always starts to frustrate and annoy me.

I was ling term Cinnamon user and recently switched to KDE Plasma. Luckily, as Linux users we have a choice.

I need a good DE for launching apps and switching tasks. As a mouse user I found Gnome poor in launching apps. Huge mouse movements needed, and hard to lay out the launcher apps as I need them compared to Plasma. Id consider Gnome if I found a suitable replacement launcher. It would need favourites, category navigation and search.

DE is very important to me, however I'm on the side of extreme minimalism with a focus on the keyboard instead of mouse. I want my graphical environment to respond instantaneously to my commands, and I don't like having to use the mouse for simple tasks like launching programs. I also use tiled layouts and multiple desktops extensively. I hate having to alt+tab to find the window I need - I want to just quickly move to the right desktop with a keyboard shortcut. I switched to i3 a few years ago and love it. I'll admit though, this is not the DE that should be advertised to new Linux users.

Yes, I agree. I personally like Cinnamon and Gnome, XFce if my PC doesn't have much ram. I don't really enjoy any of the other ones.

Not sure what the Frame means with any of this. It's going to be running the same stack as Deck, which is KDE. It's also not going to be any sort of headset for your PC, at least at the outset.

As for your other Dr questions, it's all just personal preference. The Desktop is just window dressing on a compositor and window manager anymore. If you're comfortable without all the system helpers and convenience of using either Gnome or KDE, you can just run a WM like Hyprland or Sway instead.

Very important.

At this stage, I see no reason to use anything other than KDE.

Extremely. I've tried KDE flavors of various distros and one thing that trips me up every single time is the workflow for connecting to my hidden WiFi network. On Gnome and Cinnamon I can do this in a few clicks from the network icon in the task bar. On KDE I always have to spend several minutes fumbling my way around the network settings before I can start using it. Every. Single. Time. I don't know why, it's like my brain just works a certain way and because this is such an early and crucial step in setting up a fresh install, I've never been able to stick w/ KDE despite all the rave reviews it receives in these types of posts.

It is important. But I find the ones I have tried good, and would survive if I had to use either of them. I use KDE Plasma on my main personal laptop, I have Cinnamon running on a living room computer connected to my TV (not an ideal solution, but I've so far not taken the time to optimize the setup) and GNOME om my work laptop. I much prefer KDE Plasma out of them, but I like the others also.

I just wish I could have AfterStep's mini desktop pager in a modern window manager. It was so cool seeing an overview of my virtual desktops next to each other and being able to drag windows from one to the other without switching desktops.

DE is very important. I'm now so used to tiling that I couldn't go back to Gnome or KDE.