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submitted 3 days ago by ISolox@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

After 4 years of using Fedora KDE as my main OS with 0 issues or drawbacks, my workplace is now requiring all computers to be on Windows 11. Any suggestions to make the transition back more bearable?

My dissapointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined :(

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[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago
[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

Winboat looks nice. I'm planning to play with it today. I'm also going to try distro box etc. Wish me a happy Virt-day. (yeah, yeah, I know where thee door is.)

[-] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago

At workplace, use whatever OS and tools allowed by company policy.

At home, use whatever OS and tools you like.

At least that is how I’m managing it.

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah exactly. Although it's also totally understandable that OP is unhappy with their decision. At the end of the day any reasonably large workplace just wants all their IT to be as manageable as possible, which means as uniform as possible in hardware and OS. But using windows for many jobs just kinda sucks.

[-] angrox@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Well, why? Compliance? ISO certification requirement? Any chance of providing the requirements to Linux?

[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago

Start doing a job search?

[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 days ago

No amount of HRT would make this transition any easier my dude.

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[-] ccunix@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

WSL is reasonable bearable, you can install Fedora instead of the default Ubuntu/Debian too. My work PC started out on 10 and is now on 11. I think I changed the terminal program, but the one I use may be the default in Win11. Honestly, I think the only programs I run outside WSL are a browser, DaVinci Resolve and Reaper (replaced Kdenlive and Ardour, both of which I prefer).

I am able to use the same neovim config on both my home (fedora) and work laptops, which is pretty handy.

At the end of the day it is their computer, not yours.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

Doesn't having WSL under the hood negate Linux's inherent security?

I'd much rather have Windows shit containerized within Linux.

[-] ccunix@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It is a VM so fully sandboxed. All the sharing is smoke and mirrors (often in pretty cool ways).

Truth is that security is not OP's problem. Someone else (likely well above their pay grade) is shouldering that responsibility and they have decreed Windows for everyone.

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[-] tooralin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil has some nice and simple buttons for reducing the bullshit.

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Tell them you can’t switch due to some incompatibility and then just don’t do it.

[-] user28282912@piefed.social 101 points 3 days ago

Do not, under any circumstances, conduct any private business on it. What isn't being logged by Microsoft and shared with your employer, advertisers, various governments will be screenshot'd every n seconds. Additionally, I highly suggest, if you haven't already, to setup a separate VLAN for this device if you ever bring it home and connect it to your home network. Defender absolutely does passive sniffing and active network scanning now. It will also be collecting and logging visible SSIDs as well. Enjoy!

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago

Do not, under any circumstances, conduct any private business on it.

This is true of any work device regardless of the OS

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 34 points 3 days ago

My wife has had her dog shit work PC on the network all this time without any of my forethought about this. She has problems everyday with that stupid OS. Fuck.

[-] ISOmorph@feddit.org 23 points 3 days ago

I'd like to add that you can setup Adguard or Pihole in your network to use microsoft telemetry blacklists to limit their sniffing. My work laptop constantly reminds me that I'm not connected to the internet although everything works fine, because it can't reach the captive portal 😄

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[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 57 points 3 days ago

Sorry for your loss :( Same thing happened to me about a year ago.

I was the sole IT admin for a small company. Used Debian with KDE on a snappy little Thinkpad. No issues managing all the infra with it, even though most of it was MS trash. I used Reminnia for RDP into the Windows servers, and the Browser for all O365/Entra administration. A Windows 11 VM for the rare times I needed to test Windows-only apps or configs.

Worked like a dream, but then we got bought out by a huge competitor. Their IT team took everything over. I had to decommission my on-prem Linux servers, Ansible automations, Open Project tracking and FOSS ticketing system. Finally, I had to give up my Sweet little Linux Thinkpad and use their standard-issue HP Windows 11 garbage laptop. They were slow, clunky, buggy, and ugly, it was awful.

I quit a few months later after securing the job I have now. It pays about 35% more, has twice as much PTO, and about 50% of my workload is Linux stuff. It's so much better.

My advice, if it's truly non negotiable, install WSL first thing. It's not nearly as good as having actual Linux, because it's running inside of Microslop's horrid OS, but it's better than nothing. Try to be an advocate for FOSS at the company, see if you can convince leadership to let you implement Linux-based solutions wherever they might fit, make yourself the de facto expert on them so you at least get to work on Linux and FOSS infra.

Aside from that, start job hunting. Try to find a job that will let you be more Linuxy.

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[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Get a separate device for work. You shouldn't be working on your personal computer anyway.

[-] ISolox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

It is a work device. I was just allowed to use fedora until now.

[-] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Just in the right moment when windows got so reliable and safe /s

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 days ago

Just use the shovel your boss gives you. Back to your own preferences once you clock out.

[-] axx@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

Meh, does "the boss" pay you to use a shovel or to dig stuff up?

It's obvious OP is going to be miserable and less productive on Windows, it's not to their employer's benefit for that to happen.

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[-] furycd001@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Depending on your computers specs & if it's allowed or not by your company.. You could always continue to use Fedora & run win-11 inside a VM with pass through enabled....

[-] LaSirena@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This is what I did. They get to manage a Windows machine and I get to continue being more efficient at the job they hired me to do.

[-] ISolox@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Thanks for the info guys, good stuff!

Those of you who are telling me to look for a new workplace over an OS change are a bit crazy though lol. It's not quite that bad.

[-] jtzl@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Clearly I was not the first with that call to action.

But seriously, Windows is awful. I've had to use it lately, and it's comically bad. Like the OS shows me ads! Wtf!? In Fahrenheit 451, it describes the billboards as longer so you can read them while driving fast on the highway, and I feel like the ads Windows shows are basically a similar type of dystopian. And like, now you can disable more with menus, but then the disable option is like buried somewhere hard to find.

[-] tapdattl@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

And as soon as you get an update all their shit is turned back on, and re-enabled, and edge (🤮) is back on the taskbar.... I hate microsoft so, so much.

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[-] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Think about it the other way around; you could use Linux on your work pc for the time being and your workplace was fine with that? that's awesome. it's a bummer things changed, but... that's corporate life, bro.

[-] psion1369@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago
[-] axx@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How big is said workplace? Can you respectfully ask for an exemption? Don't say Windows will make you miserable (it makes everyone miserable, apart from a few Microsoft bootlickers), talk about loss of productivity, reduced security and increased risk, and – if you can – challenge the grounds on which the change is being made.

Often, they are incapable of providing proper justification for the change. May not help, but you'll have the minor satisfaction of knowing it is bullshit.

[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think the problem with Linux in the workplace is that it's hard (read harder than Windows and MacOS) to setup to be managed devices. Especially if the company is a Microsoft shop to begin with. The IT security teams just don't know how to enforce the company policies on Linux machines. Enforce password policy, network credentials and managed apps. It easy with Intune for Windows and Mac. Much harder on Linux.

That's the reason I was given by my work place, when I was "forced" to switch from Linux to Windows.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Especially if the company is a Microsoft shop to begin with.

Nonsense, MS has an Intune client for Linux.

The IT security teams just don't know how to enforce the company policies on Linux machines

Too bad. Skill issue. They need to learn how to manage Linux just like any other new tech.

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[-] frosty@pawb.social 9 points 3 days ago

I'm hearing similar complaints from our IT leadership as well regarding Linux PCs. However, Linux is accepted in R&D labs and the cloud because those are network-segmented spaces with additional perimeter controls.

If true zero-trust ever comes to my company, perhaps they'll be a bit more receptive.

[-] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

I'm sorry to hear that. Our company recently got acquired, and every 4-6 months the new IT team tries to say, "but do you guys really need Linux? What for?". We answer them, in depth, every time, but then it just comes back up a few months later.

I'm scared one of these days they're just going to force the change on us, all productivity will grind to an absolute halt, deliverables will be missed, and eventually they'll backtrack but only after it's too late to recover the programs that got hosed in the process.

[-] tangonov@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 days ago

Just ask them why they want to waste the money on licensing. Money is the language managers understand

[-] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Although compliance is also a concern.

For us, on our Linux machines, they pay Canonical or RedHat for workstations 🤷‍♂️

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[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Pressing F to pay my respects.

Sorry to hear that OP.

When old employer was bought out they tried to move us on to windows. It was shit. After non stop issues they gave in and let us keep linux.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago

Switch workplace.

There are countless ways to bypass that (e.g. https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-webtop/ running on a server) but honestly if a workplace does not value your expertise to hone your own tools, they don't really value you as an employee.

[-] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Install Powertoys if you can, this at least makes windows usable (funcionality-wise, its still going to be slow as shit)

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 days ago

As a form of protest create README txt files everywhere that say things like "I wish I was using linux" and "friends don't let friends use windows".

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[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 19 points 3 days ago

Uh. My condolences. Do they also force you to use the software installed on Windows? Otherwise you could just image Fedora and run it in a virtual machine inside of Windows 11. Technically, I guess that'd fulfill the requirement with Windows 11 on the computer... Just that you don't use it for more than log in, start the Linux VM and expand it full-screen.

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