About fucking time... But knowing our corrupt overlord fucks, they will just use matrix.org free service and conclude "it's not responsive enough, whelp, we tried..."
Title is inaccurate. @Beep@lemmus.org please use the actual title. They are not replacing Teams.
you responded to a comment, not to OP :)
It's the EC doing software. They will somehow find a way to pay at least double and it'll be declared a success if someone manages to install it on a reviewer's laptop.
Good luck
I've always heard matrix was so so at best. So this seems unwise.
Matrix is good. Element is not. It is a terrible application filled with bugs that ends up limiting the quality of other client applications.
I do think the EU should start with a more basic app like FluffyChat in testing but rebranded, then try to make their own app over the Matrix protocol that fits their specific communications needs and share that development publicly with open source.
Any matrix client available for both android and ios with video conference capabilities?
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that might have sounded a bit too aggressive. My question is genuine. Family members needs.
Have not tried it, but supposedly Element X does support that
German military uses matrix with their own messenger.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bwi.bwmessenger
Oh perfect. That would be a good upstream base for other European govt projects.
Didn't XMPP already solve these issues a long time ago?
The biggest problem with XMPP is what various servers and clients implement is kind of all over the place. For instance, most clients support an older version of OMEMO, but some clients support newer versions, and the different versions are incompatible.
The other issue is some platforms (iOS in particular) have pretty shitty XMPP apps filled with bugs.
I still generally like XMPP more than Matrix since ATM Matrix clients are also filled with bugs/laggy, Synapse (the main server implementation) is very resource heavy, and message syncing is kind of shit if the client doesn't implement sliding sync (like FluffyChat). I personally think the UI for both XMPP and Matrix clients generally kind of suck, which isn't great for convincing non-techy people to use them.
I personally think the UI for both XMPP and Matrix clients generally kind of suck, which isn't great for convincing non-techy people to use them.
Ding ding ding. Make a Discord/Slack clone that does screensharing and drag/drop file sharing and I won't care if it uses XMPP or Matrix
I think there have been some attempts to do so, but they're just not good enough (and/or end up dead after a while).
I mean, matrix is similar. So many official features aren't supported by various clients, and then there are non official features that the clients do support, that aren't supported by the official clients.
But matrix or XMPP, that problem is easily enough avoided at the "government rollout" level by standardising on a particular client and server combination
This is a case where federation is nice.
It's good to have an easy model for communication between members of different trusted organizations without requiring everyone to create a new account on a different server.
XMPP is federated
Rocket.Chat seems to be doing well in Europe as well; they recently released their own native matrix implementation.
Interesting. My company uses Matrix Element as well and it works great.
Hopefully the intention is to contribute and help make it into something that can serve large organizations reliably.
Sweet! Element already has some work put into for secure gov use, plus federation is the reality at scale.
they should try use Nextcloud Talk
I dont know how they are going to get people in the goo pods but I wish them luck.
hope estonia does get to matrix after Skype was killed.
Wow, they must have some really smart people making these suggestions.
Matrix Is NOT ready for this bro
I tried installing matrix once on a VM at work. A lot of work to get it running and it refused to work for some reason. I guess there are better alternatives, something made with xmpp or even rocketchat
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