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[-] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 51 points 1 week ago

Flock also vehemently denies that their cameras are full of components and materials with a high resale value, and wants the public to stop treating them like catalytic converters.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

I do not know much about flock cameras. Where are they installed? And why?

[-] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 27 points 1 week ago

Networked security cameras that detect license plates, identifying features, etc. Sold to law enforcement, but also to home owners and businesses.

The data they collect is used by ICE to maximize their crimes against humanity.

[-] French75@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago

I think your description is reasonable, however I'd argue that they are not security cameras. Rather a nationwide public surveillance network intended to circumvent the 4th amendment.

Flock doesn't secure people or property. They merely catalog the movements of people and vehicles for future law enforcement work, allowing both current location searches and comprehensive retrospective location history searches, all without warrants or court orders. Again, not picking on you here; just adding some color because while security camera is easy to understand, it also has a connotation that is quote different from what flock does.

[-] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 1 points 1 week ago

The added depth is good. I gave a pretty thin tl;dr.

[-] French75@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago

Face detection as well, and partnered with Amazon Ring.

[-] harmbugler@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We're not forcing Flock on anyone

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

When you call everyone a terrorist. No one is.

[-] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

They're the point. Well one of the points. The other is things like the Patriot Act let them bypass laws to do otherwise illegal shit to terrorists.

[-] French75@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter accusations has been the standard argumentative tactic of "the good guys" for generations.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

White men really like to throw that word around.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago

I have wondered if one of those "10W blue flashlights" would damage a surveillance camera.

[-] figjam@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago

Not as much as a 9mm kinetic flashlight

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

a physical object seems more efficient.

[-] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

I believe you'd need a laser of some strength, and these cameras would need to lack proper filters. I'm not saying it's not worth a shot. Just that I doubt it will be effective.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Honestly, I think the best option is a drone with a can of spray paint. Just make sure you mount the can in such a way that the downwash from the rotors doesn't throw off your aim.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Playing the old villain pretending to be the victim card. They learned that from Israel

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The US’s capitalist class is the same people as Israel’s capitalist class. The two countries are essentially interchangeable with how they act on the world stage.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Except that US citizenship doesn’t include the universal healthcare, free college and $400 monthly payment per child until they are 18 that Israeli citizens enjoy at our expense

[-] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Neither does Israel for its subclasses (Palestinians). Those supporting and benefiting from imperialism and settler colonialism get the privileges, those being exploited do not. It's been that way for centuries. The way lines are drawn and legitimized changes, but the fundamental mechanism remains the same.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We're not forcing Flock on anyone.

Mate. Maybe a politician paid you to put in your spy equipment up everywhere, but the people did not. There is no opt out here. No one in the general public was asked for their consent to be tracked and monitored at all times in public. The average American is probably mostly or completely unaware of just how much they are being watched, tracked and remembered by your systems, and almost nobody would intentionally consent to such a thing. And for the people that are sharing information on what you are doing, how to avoid your surveillance network, and are rallying against it, you are calling them terroristic. So fuck off with your smug ass bullshit. You are a spy network working for the worst authoritarian interests of the state and capitalists against the American people. Your company should be dissolved and your cameras should be scrapped for parts.

[-] Sidhean@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

A terrorist is when they don't like me

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Point the cameras at pets. Problem solved?

Make the pets input stuff into AI. The AI then "helps" send data to FLOCk

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