Scoop: Dems working on secret report found Gaza cost Harris votes (www.axios.com)

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

The report: everything we were screaming into the void from 2023 till 2024.

The report is moot other than the fact they trying to bury it because anyone with two twigs to run together knows the answer, knew it before it happened, knew it while it was happening, and knows it now.

Trump was easily beatable in 2024 and Dems blew it at every turn.

You want to see the roadmap for beating Trump?

Sort c/politics by controversial and read the top five threads of comments.

It's all there in black and white, in no uncertain terms. And the shitlibs who insisted we take the worst strategy turns possible (and advocating for them in those threads)..they mostly jumped ship (santanko and squid being notable examples).

It's also worth nothing how many voices who go their analysis at the time basically correct at the time it would have mattered, how many of them are banned from politics as a whole. There was a clear moderation effort made to cultivate a specific type of conversation here.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 3 points 2 weeks ago

I feel really stupid asking this but how do you sort by controversial? I hit the sort button but none of them says controversial. I'm using piefed app. Sorry I'm new here.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

In voyager I press the cool skull button:

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thanks friend. Looks like the piefed app doesn't have this functionality. Guess it's time to change.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

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[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago

Next up: Dems working on secret report found Epstein and Trump were friends!

[-] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Not just friends! Best friends! Besties!

[-] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Who could have predicted supporting mass murder would look bad?

[-] BertramDitore@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

Scoop: no fucking shit.

So exhausting.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yup, all those folks withheld their votes, and now Gaza is saved!

[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

Blaming the voters would've worked, if it weren't for those meddling kids, too!

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Who else wasted their votes besides stupid voters?

[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Seahawks QB Matt Hasselbeck, that's who.

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What state was going to turn if all green party voters voted Harris?

Because you can't name one, I'll proceed to the next point: it's the job of the party to court votes. That's it. They don't have another job. And when they fail in doing that, they've failed in their job.

A party blaming voters is like a sailor blaming the sea. The sea just is what it is. There is nothing any sailor or captain, or person looking from land can do to change the manner of the sea.

The voters are the way they are. You can hate the way that they are, you can wish they were different than how they are, but that doesn't not change them. We told you this in 2023. You ignored us and told us that "the voters just needed to suck it up and vote this way". But the voters didn't, because that's not how voters work. And by resisting calls for the party to change, you are doing the work of setting us up for further failure.

If you are blaming voters, an amorphous blob over which neither you, nor I, nor anyone else has control of: you are a saboteur of the effort to stop fascism.

It is politically illiterate to blame voters. When the sailors in board tell the captain "don't go that way, there are rocks", and the captain says "well the rocks better move, whose fault is it that the rocks didn't move?

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Libs would rather try to get millions of ordinary people to give up their most fundamental moral principles than ask one powerful person to exhibit basic human decency. They essentially treat politicians like gods, to be followed unconditionally. No form of democracy could ever work with such a submissive populace.

That's if you take what they say at face value, anyway. The reality is a lot of them don't want to pressure politicians about things like the genocide of foreigners because they don't genuinely care. They just have to pretend to for rhetorical reasons to appease leftists. If a politician disagrees with them on something they actually care about, they may suddenly find their misplaced spines. Hard to say how many are like that, as opposed to the ones who are genuinely spineless.

[-] monkeyjoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You can't expect the people who blindly vote for their favorite color to actually understand what an election is, let alone want to win an election.

They don't care what happens in the oval office as long as it's blue. Like how Biden didn't actually stop the cages on the border, they just ignored it until Trump was in office. And then they pretend to care again as they say all Latinos are guilty of what the DNC chose to ignore.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 2 weeks ago

Idk about the Greens, but Biden had 6 Million more votes in 2020 than Harris did in 2024. That's a lot of abstainers.

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[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

no fucking shit. idiots.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

C'mon, surely someone with access wants to leak that shit.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

secret

why?

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Because it proves they're incompetent.

[-] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

All the crummy neo-lib takes makes me regret having voted for it to begin with. I compromised myself for the sake of damage control and I'm furious about it. I consider a neo-liberal as no better than MAGAt because when the mask comes off, they aren't.

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[-] monkeyjoe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Huh. Maybe next time we tell them "supporting mass murder is bad even if the other side does it too" they'll listen.

They won't. They would rather lose and be controlled opposition. But one can hope for change.

[-] LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ya think dot gif

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Could you guys fucking work on something useful instead of secret reports?

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[-] KiloGex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ya, no shit.

[-] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, came up with that themselves did they?

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Why would anyone waste their time studying something that's blatantly obvious?

Can someone conduct a study to confirm that hot is hot and cold is cold?

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hes in power now. What are you gonna do about it? Politicians? Voters?

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

In related news: water is wet!

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

Wut? Duh. That's literally why she lost

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[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's good that this is being talked about, now is certainly the time to do so, but it's also so incredibly frustrating that millions of people could be so stupid to be aware of this issue and still allow the rapist corrupt "kill their families" guy back into office. It's evidence that people will choose more bloodshed over less bloodshed because they supposedly "oppose bloodshed".

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 weeks ago

No! 🫨

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