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[-] bunnyfc@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

I know people who are left leaning democrats and they're for gun control. But gun control doesn't solve the problem entirely.

The problem is the entire culture around guns and toxic 'me and my gun and my truck' self sufficiency culture in the US and the lack of a social net.

[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes it is. I was downvoted to shit last time I said we should have the mandatory 10 days waiting period and background checks. Had nothing but what ifs.

People treating firearms as fuckin toys should be banned. Your firearm was on unattended and your child killed himself or an other person? Straight to jail. Fuckin hate that people have lost the respect of the tool they are using.

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[-] uis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sounds more like asshole culture

[-] explodicle@local106.com 19 points 1 year ago
[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

He was in a militia, but ok

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[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

Was the man not in the national guard? Seems he was exactly a part of a well regulated militia. That doesn't just automatically stop gun crime.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

That's the point. It isn't well-regulated.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The National Guard is not well regulated? Im gonna wager your definition of well regulated is a body in which nothing bad ever happens, which is not what well regulated means, that's called perfection.

If the national guard isnt considered well regulated then nothing is, and clearly the writers of the bill didnt intend for 'well regulated' to be an impossible standard. So if well regulated is going to mean something it didnt mean from the authors then that phrase no longer has bearing on the right, and shockingly enough the US Judicial system agrees with and upheld that.

This was a shooting by a member of a well regulated milita. That phrase or organization structure is not a magic spell that stops crime. The authors would have written 'crime free' instead of well regulated if that's what they meant.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

If a memeber of said Militia can spend 2 weeks in a psychiatric ward for hearing voices in his head telling him to shoot up the said Militia he is a part of and still keep the means to carry out the will of said voices it isn't well-regulated, sorry not sorry. The term Well-Regulated doesnt automatically mean it is going to be regulated.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Here's the thing though:

can spend 2 weeks in a psychiatric ward for hearing voices in his head telling him to shoot up the said Militia

They can't, it is already a federal law that people who are IVC'd (this guy) are prohibited purchasers and they are supposed to take the guns and input that into NICs, but someone didn't do their fucking job. Has nothing to do with the weekend warrior ~~militia~~ branch of the US military either, that applies to everyone, federally, as it is a federal law.

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[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

If the national guard isnt considered well regulated then nothing is

Ignoring the fact that this is obviously a false dichotomy........ Have you ever served in the guard or active duty military? The guard especially from certain states, is usually known for being an unorganized shit show. Active duty has its obvious issues, but they also have a lot more control over their personnel, including who they keep and promote.

In the guard, as long as you show up for roll call and pass your test you're pretty much promoted until you want to leave. Which is why the last few military pr blunders were committed by officers or NCO in the reserves.

I doubt you would find many people who served in the reserves that would claim they were well organized or well regulated.

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[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

But was it well regulated?

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[-] Kjatten@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
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