Well now this sounds interesting. And I assume it's open source?
I thought we already had Matrix
Matrix is decentralized but its not federating in a way like activity pub is doing
ActivityPub isn't the only way to federate.
Matrix is federating the same way email does. Anyone can spin up their own server. And if they want anyone can spin up their own software. That's what federation is. Different servers agreeing on how to communicate with each other.
How so? It's certainly very similar.
The matrix protocol enables federation between different instances running different homeservers between users using different clients.
What do you mean?
And what benefit justifies yet another standard?
In this day and age we need as many open source e2e encrypted alternatives as possible.
We do.
This is for activitypub DMs.
That's what I mean.
The headline is a lie.
If I say tacos coming soon, it doesn't mean I invented tacos, just that there will be new tacos I guess
I'll take one
I heard this is the line for tacos.
Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower.
Sides are open as a bar, self serve.
But we already have tacos.
If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?"
Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger?
MLS will eventually be included in all messengers.
It was initially introduced by Wire as an RFC, but they fumbled the federation by making it an enterprise only feature. Because of that, other messengers will do the federating for them. iMessage, Google Messenger, Matrix, and Germ DM (Bluesky) do or partly have it implemented.
We should always have more alternatives to chose from - good to see so many players.
Finally I can discuss my scat fetish with my fellow scat enthusiasts away from the prying eyes of the NSA!
Nyeh-heh heh heeh!
Major League Soccer messaging? Let’s goooo
Why?
What benefit does this have over Signal/Matrix?
The article just says "improvements".
why? because it would be cool if only intended recipients are able to view sent messages.
That's not really going to be the case if you're using a website instead of an audited app like signal/matrix.
that argument doesn't hold. you're letting perfect be the enemy of good-and if you truly believe that, then you wouldn't be recommending Matrix which has web clients, see https://app.element.io/
from what i can tell, mls supports much larger group chats (50k users) whereas i assume signal would struggle.
my chat of 10 people i signal seems just as secure, if i am reading right.
But, what about Session? It's decentralized, E2EE, uses Lokinet, seems pretty solid, no?
No phone, email, or other info needed to sign up
Let's gooooooo
this is misleading and sensationalistic. if emissary implements e2ee, it's not "e2ee for the fediverse", it's " e2ee for emissary users". did mastodon talk about e2ee? did lemmy?
also the MLS-in-activitypub draft proposes for trusted key exchange either " trust the server" (lmao), use a centralized key authority (wow) or have users manually verify their keys out of band (so basically use matrix to assure your chat is encrypted). source: https://swicg.github.io/activitypub-e2ee/architectural-variations.html#validating-end-to-end-encryption
fedi devs need to stop clickbaiting, and fedi users should learn a bit more about their protocol to avoid getting misled this way
I felt like a 90 year old grandma reading this.
good news everybody!
Fake journalists not even bothering to google that XMPP exists #10496839485.
This is about implementing E2EE directly into ActivityPub, so that has nothing to do with this.
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