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[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago
[-] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

"We apologize for the inconvenience this causes you."

Yes I'm sure you fucking do.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

If they try this shit in my state, I’d fucking sue.

I had surgery BECAUSE it would let me change my drivers license. I paid $5500 as a broke college student because I was getting turned down for jobs with that stupid “F.”

I don’t understand how any of this is legal. The constitution prohibits “ex post facto” laws - how can you revoke someone’s documentation when they complied with the laws as they were at the time?

[-] CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I don't understand how any of this is legal

That's the thing - It's not. They don't give a shit, and the judicial system isn't doing anything about it

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[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The constitution prohibits “ex post facto” laws - how can you revoke someone’s documentation when they complied with the laws as they were at the time?

I agree with you generally that this should be illegal, but it probably isn't.

It definitely isn't ex post facto; this is not a law that punishes anyone from a legal perspective, it merely changes the requirements for a certain privilege (the ability to drive a vehicle). If it declared these licenses invalid before the date of the law (which could carry punishments for illegally operating vehicles), then it would be ex post facto.

Another way to put it is that it simply makes a certain action illegal which was previously legal, and laws do that sort of thing all the time. Consider that in the US you didn't need a driver's license in order to drive at all until 1913. The NJ law requiring drivers licenses also "revoked" someone's privilege even though they complied with the laws previously, requiring them to get a permit from then on. But, since it didn't introduce any punishments for not having the permit before it was introduced, it wasn't ex post facto.

Of course the law is also clearly discriminatory, but US's extremely limited anti-discrimination laws are likely not broad enough to be applied here.

The current events should awaken many people to the sad fact that US laws and its entire legal system exists primarily to protect the wealthy and the powerful from everyone else; all other functions are secondary. As such, many horrible, immoral, and unjust things are legal under US laws, and many others will be twisted into being legal by the supreme court.

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[-] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

This letter reads to me like it is someone from the Kansas executive branch (run by Democrat Governor Laura Kelly) legitimately apologizing that they are bound by Republican made, veto-overridden law to cause this inconvenience, but maybe I'm being too generous

That could be the case, I suppose. If they really wanted to be assholes about it, they could just not send anything at all. This at least explains how the recipient is effected and what they can/need to do

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Not only that, but bare in mind that most government employees are there to do a job. They don't always agree with the laws they have to enforce and sometimes they will make it as challenging as possible for fascist ideas like this go through.

Complaining to them is like complaining to the checkout cashier at your grocery store that the prices are too high.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That's how I read this, too. The government isn't a monolith that just agrees with every law they have to follow. They do have to follow the law until it is challenged, though. Hopefully courts in KS knock this down.

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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

The "your driver license is invalid immediately" is super fucking infuriating, especially in a country where without a driving license means being unemployable

Fucking scum, a driving license has nothing to do with sex. It is meant to prove that the cardholder is able to drive a vehicle or not.

Luckily I live in a continent where the cardholder sex isn't mentioned at all in the driving license (eu directive of 2006)

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I wonder how many billions the USA has been wasted on crap legislation just like this.

I would think it would be worse for the license holder AND whatever law agency to be listed as "M" when they look "F", and tie up a lot of resources over nothing but another power trip.

So now you must hire a "medical professional" to exam and of course they will be paid by the state.

Then they'll need to make a new law enforcement division with a clever acronym, like T.E.D.

Then scanners at bathrooms with attending physician on call

Minimum wage is seven dollars an hour. Union membership is now mostly government employees and down to 10%.

STOCK MARKET 50K THOUGH

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

It boils my fucking blood that my tax dollars are paying for this

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago

They knew this would be a deeply unpopular bill, which is why they refused to open it up to public input...This sets a dangerous precedent for further discriminatory laws. All because the chucklefucks that run Kansas legislation in my home state are fucking bigots and wanted some brownie points from a dementia suffering pres and his vocal minority. Disgusting, I don't want my neighbors or Kansas citizens being fucked over like this, it pisses me off on a scale that has no number.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

All because the chucklefucks that run Kansas legislation in my home state

I know you're just saying that Kansas is your home state, but I choose to read it as some conspiracy that you live in some other state, and chucklefucks there are secretly running the Kansas legislature. :D

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

ROFL It does kinda read like that, I'm not even mad.

[-] Pavidus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

This is total horse shit, but not even a grace period? That's extra evil.

Don't have a friend who can drive you to the DMV? Can't afford to pay for a ride? Don't live close to a bus stop? Please drive to the nearest DMV office where you will be arrested for operating a motor vehicle with a license that we invalidated just hours ago. Sorry for the inconvenience that we put a lot of effort into inflicting on you.

[-] dewritoninja@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How long until they do this with passports?

They've tried doing this at the national level, so it's in the works.

[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Haven't they already? I saw a video of Hunter Schaffer saying she'd been issued an M passport in the first few days of Trump's 2nd term

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Scum state with an even worse government.

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

You misspelled country.

[-] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

First they came for the transgendered, and I didn't speak up because they didn't allot a public comment period.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

we apologize the inconvenience this causes you

Whenever you see this line, anywhere, you know that they're saying "fuck you and what are you going to do about it, eh?"

I mean, we're 5 steps away from eugenics, and we'we sowwy for the inconvenience!

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The goal is literally to inspire acts of violence by trans people. You can only persecute a community so much before the more unstable elements in that community start lashing out violently against anyone they can blame. That's the goal here. They're actively trying to create trans mass shooters. You demonize and persecute a minority. When some return your violence, you use that to justify further persecution.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I'm not trans, but I'm considering it. As someone posted above, respect my trans homies, or I'll identify as a fucking problem.

I am patient and intelligent. And very. Very. Fucking. Angry.

I cannot be alone.

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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
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[-] minnow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Your right to self identify doesn't exist under fascist rule. Identify as you're told, or face the consequences.

Today it's gender. I wonder what facet of identity they'll seek to control tomorrow. Sexual orientation? Religion? Political affiliation?

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[-] ronl2k@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

How is this different from the feds requiring passports to use their birth certificate sex designation?

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fed isn’t revoking current passports. I’ve heard stories of renewals being returned to natal sex (and confiscated, but fewer incidents of that), but not “your current identification is invalid and you need to replace it ASAP.”

Do you realize how terrifying that would be? Get pulled over for a burned out tail light, your drivers license doesn’t count any more (realistically - how quickly could you clear out a day to visit the DMV?)

You can’t vote till you replace it? Kansas is probably following some ALEC/P26 playbook, and other states will follow. Closer to midterms likely.

I occasionally like to travel to rural areas. I used to spend a great deal of time volunteering in rural areas. Places where an incongruity between appearance and classification could be harmful. Minimum is being unable to grab a beer perhaps, but i don’t think it takes much imagination for other outcome. I guess that’s how it’s personally different.

Why do licenses need gender or sex at all?

[-] Ribbons@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago
[-] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

choose your fighter

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Why stop at sex at birth. Add height at birth, weight at birth, baby photo etc.

[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

And notice how they gave NO GRACE PERIOD for them whatsoever to cause as much pain and suffering. You can't drive, you can't buy alcohol, tobacco, etc. This goes to show what happens when hateful racists run the entire government and need a minority group to attack and blame everything on.

Remember to vote people, this is why voting is so important.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They gave no grace period and invalidated licenses during elections.

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[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

This also costs money and can threaten their ability to vote.

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[-] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Actually evil.

This exists for no reason other than to intentionally harm a small and already marginalized group.

It's a shame that fighting groups like the heritage foundation needed to take a couple decade backseat for insane cultural warring based entirely on misrepresenting each other and refusing to communicate.

And trying to point out that fact got you labeled as "enemy group" by everyone involved, and most people aren't involved enough to tell the difference between things like faux opposition within the establishment, and legitimate progressive groups with separate but legitimate grievances.

Get the peasants fighting the peasants, because if you pump enough noise into the environment, people just stop trying to comprehend outside of their bubble.

These monsters will destroy the world in order to apply their fickle bigotry.

Fuck the heritage foundation, bohemian grove, atlas network, and their myriad of other shapes used to obfuscate while affecting control. The rich have class solidarity, and they've done an amazing job getting everyone else to fight themselves.

Trans rights are human rights.

[-] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Why would America allow an openly transphobic government into power like this?

Oh right...

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[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 week ago

This makes me feel bad for Trans people even more.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We've been targeted by Nazis since at least 1933, but we're always left out of history classes

Edit: this event is what gave us the banger quote "where they burn books, in the end they will burn humans too’"

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