While I'm happy that it's Motorola, i just wish someone like Fairphone also bites the bullet of investing in a proper encryption chip that's acceptable to Grapheneos. I'd like to see more or a trifecta (duofecta?) of trustworthy OS and sustainable/committed manufacturer.
Now is this the REAL Motorola or is it the brand name that Lenovo got a hold of. Cause real Motorola doesnt make consumer phones anymore.
Lenovo's Motorola, if you ask me. I don't think there's much left at all from original Motorola. But they had a decent track record with their recent phones, AFAIK. Not that I've owned any from Motorola.
I have a Motorola phone, I like it. It's at least better than the Samsung I had before.
I think they just released the fair phone 6 not too long ago so it’ll take a while even if it’s on the tables.
GrapheneOS requires I think a few other things, like the possibility to completely disable the data lines in the USB port, and a bunch of others.
The problem with Fairphone is that they have rather high demands (e.g. long term support for hardware, better production practices) but they are a rather small outfit, so the default answer from parts manufacturers is "talk to the hand".
As they grow they'll become more interesting
I would argue that Fairphone with /e/OS is a combination of a committed/sustainable manufacturer with a trustworthy OS. It does not actively spy or screw with you, and it tries to prevent snooping in many places.
Of course it's not nearly as security hardened as GrapheneOS, so that may be an unacceptable compromise to some.
You know, I’d love a razr flip with graphene. Bring it on.
Ooo I'm sure this is likely for future models, but I was actually pondering getting a cheap pixel to try out graphene and see what it'd be like compared to my Razr. Maybe I'll have to wait a bit to see how this develops.
You can find older pixels on swappa for cheap - my understanding is that we won't see a GrapheneOS phone earlier than 2027 (which admittedly is only 9 months away).
which admittedly is only 9 months away
Don't you dare say such a thing
That would be so awesome
The best thing about Motorola is that they ship with a very stock android ROM. It's also the worst bit, because there's nobody maintaining any software. Handballing software maintenance to GrapheneOS would be sweet.
This genuinely so fucking smart from Motorola. Whomever is greenlighting this needs major kudos. We're in a world where everyone wants to move away from US technology now and Google/Apple have monopolized the market. Motorola is making this move RIGHT when everywhere else is going "Is there literally nothing else we can use???" Good play esp as they need to up the specs on a new device to handle Graphene. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.
Isn't Motorola still a US company though? How is this a move away from US tech?
Nope, moto mobility is owned by lenovo. So chinese.
Looking at Wikipedia now, Motorola Mobility is owned by Lenovo but still a US based company, so kinda the worst of both, no?
I Fucking love Motorola, I'm cumming as I'm reading this. Thank you Motorola.
Yeah this is cool. Could have been much worse than Motorola. Looking forward to this
Sounds like a good choice. Motorola has some very good budget phones and also good high-end phones. All running pretty clean versions of Android. I hope GrapheneOS will support both a flagship (or midrange) and a budget phone.
This is hilarious to me because other than a Samsung once (which made me go back) I had only moto... Until when I finally upgraded I wanted grapheneOS so pixel it was. Very happy about this.
why in the thumbnail is it neither org's logos?
Interesting catch, weird AI image maybe?
Glad to see this. Motorola seemed like a solid choice. Hopefully we'll get some specs and release dates when they officially unveil it. I know it was pushed back to 2027, so I'm hoping for a Q1 2027 release. I've been holding off on getting a pixel in the hopes of getting a non-Google GrapheneOS phone. It would be nice if I don't wind up having to wait too much longer.
Really hope it releases 2026 so I can get rid of this pixel asap
MWC 2026 announcement likely, but devices may not ship until 2027
Motorola is expected to formally announce the partnership [in March]. With MWC 2026 around the corner, the timing would make strategic sense.
In case others were wondering, MWC 2026 is March 2-5. So, hopefully we'll have official verification by the end of the week.
It's great to see a mainstream OEM work with GOS. I really hope Motorola will make phones with an actual headphone jack. That's my no. 1 complaint about modern Pixel hardware.
According to the article, it was a little obvious that it'd be Motorola. To me it's unexpected as I wasn't following this all that closely. In any case, I'm personally pleased with the OEM choice. I'll need to do some research on Motorola's smartphones to prepare for the one/s that support Graphene.
They are basically stock android with minimal bloatware for a decent price. I've been using them for years. There's the whole Lenovo scandal but its hard to find any decent phone I want nowadays so concessions need to be made somewhere
Haven't had a Motorola in many years. Hopefully this works out well and we get a really nice piece of hardware that isn't subject to the whims of Google.
Since when is Graphene's logo a football and Motorola's the Super Mario M?
Fuck yeah, solid shoid of brand.
Although I don't know how good motorolas camera game is if you are more serious about the camera.
Edit... Not sure how I got shoid from typing choice...
Their cameras are upper midrange, at least on their flagships.
If Motorola is willing to have a non-shitty operating system, why can't they just put a non-shitty operating system on at the factory? All the stock Android OS I've seen lately, including Motorola's, are crappy, have privacy settings disabled, and in many cases are full of unremovable malware.
This is how a functioning capitalist system should work. Companies competing against each other for the benefit of the consumer.
The purpose of a system is what it does. Capitalism is functioning, it's just that we're not the beneficiaries.
Lenovo is based.
The same Lenovo that shipped laptops with a malicious root certificate preinstalled?
I remember having a motorola razr when i was younger. Loved the design
i would liked xiomi more but more Hardware is better than only google
It will be great if this reaches the Moto G series. I'm sure the Fairphone is nice but it's 4x as expensive--no thanks.
My guess is, that they will offer a new Thinkphone model with GraphenOS to target business customers.
But of course I don't know it, just guessing.
Motorola had made several classic phones.I hope this will be their true comeback.
I'm very confused this news. Reddit sub said it wasn't Motorola. This post claimed it's Motorola.
The Motorola mobile brand is owned by Lenovo. So it's basically that.
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