If you don't oppose it you support it. : memes

[-] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What kind of person the Ayatollah was is completely irrelevant to the fact that the strikes on Iran are illegal and an attempt to overthrow one regime and replace it with another regime that kowtows to US-Israeli interests. If the Iranian government was exactly the same but was US-Israel allied instead, nothing would have been done. See: Saudi regime.

Talking only about the character of the Ayatollah and ignoring the criminal actions of the fascist US regime only helps Trump and helps to normalise these actions.

[-] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago

Screw all imperialists and bootlickers

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Id say that if you support this terrorism you inherently understand that US foreign policy is bipartisan and that it doesn't matter who is president.

[-] seat6@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

It’s crazy that these 2 are nearly the same age

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

i celebrate it as a potential feather that might break the horse's back for the man on the right (including everything that he represents), and i regret the loss of lives and needless violence just to keep a hundred or so cannibalistic, pedophilic, psychopathic oligarchs in control of the world.

[-] RedLink@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately imperialist actions like this don't really "Wake people up" Most people are completely unaffected and the only ones who care are related to the issue or are already involved in anti imperialist messaging and organizing. If you ask anybody they prob have a very middle position of not wanting a war but also hating iran and thinking its justified. very "whats to be done" kinda ppl

The deaths are needless, to truly speak to the masses we ourselves have to go out and speak to the masses and organize.

[-] calmblue75@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I wouldn't call them 'Trump' supporters necessarily, but they are shamelessly supportive of US imperialism.

[-] JohnBrownsBawdy@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

He looks so much like Biden in that photo.

[-] poopsmith@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Idk, it's hard to tell with the beard.

[-] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

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[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Russia barely kills any Ukrainian children compared to the US and Israel.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Russia goes out of its way to avoid civilian casualties, US goes out of its way to kill as many civilians as possible, and Israel's raison d'être is to kill civilians - all of them.

And to preemptively respond to the dronies planning to bleat about how Russia is pure evil incarnate orcs and how anyone on the internet who would deny that all Russians are child murdering demons must be a Kremlin bot: You don't have to approve of Russia to recognize that it has valid material reasons for trying to minimize civilian casualties especially in the areas where the fighting is taking place. It is not a claim that Russia is doing it out of the kindness of their hearts but because it has a vested interest in a population it intends to govern.

The US on the other hand doesn't intend to govern Iran. It intends to either install a puppet government that does whatever the US wants including that the puppet be responsible for the suppression of the Iranian people. Or just as good if not preferable, the US intends to completely balkanize Iran and transform it into an ungoverned failed state.

Israel does not intend to govern the Gazan people, it intends to wipe them out completely and replace them entirely with Western Jewish settlers.

[-] sefra1@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 months ago

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[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

taps the sign

Things don't happen in a vacuum. Millions of people have been killed in the past 30 years with tacit liberal support in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc, usually with this exact opinion being given. The death of one man doesn't mean Iran is going to improve their laws. Imperialism causes unintended death and blowback. There will be consequences for us all

[-] tomi000@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

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[-] philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club -4 points 2 months ago

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[+] Bazell@lemmy.zip -13 points 2 months ago

Is there an option to not support anyone?

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 months ago

No you either support imperialist invasions or you don't. There is no fence to sit on.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 months ago

Not really, but there is critical support, which is how Marxists see this situation.

Critical support is supporting something while also being critical of its flaws. It is often used in the context of supporting bourgeois states that fight against imperialism or are under imperialist aggression.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

Nope. Think of it like a trolley problem.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Imagine if you got whacked by a random bigot on the street and a witness said "i want no part on this", whose side do you think that person is?

[+] taygaloocat@leminal.space -17 points 2 months ago

nah

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

cope

[-] taygaloocat@leminal.space -4 points 2 months ago

You tankies literally get nothing done. You just complain on the internet and call everyone Nazis. You do nothing to aid our leftist movement.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

Yeah

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