Hopefully this initiative sticks, sounds like my next phone (eventually) might just be Motorola/Graphene.
As long as they have basic shit like NFC or wireless charging. One of the main reasons I stopped buying them. 2nd was the tablet sized screens.
Because its grapheneos you will likely have NFC, but whether you have tap-for-payment options will be a crapshoot, especially in North America, unless having an official vendor changes things with grapheneos's play store integrity issue (which is doubtful).
Best shot is that EU will make it possible, as they distance themselves from US tech right now.
Tap to pay is whatever but I do use NFC for some home automatons.
I can't imagine grapheneos shipping on a phone without NFC.
...I wish I had the money to play with homeassistant for random things.
I quite like my Razr. I'm sure if they're aiming to be a true alternative to the mainstream OSs, they'll be including many of the mainstream features
Whelp, looks like I'm going to Motorola
Damn, Motorola may really make a comeback with this!
I’m kinda excited for this phone. But I’m unemployed so I probably won’t get it. 😂
Ultra based Motorola
Good, good. Next, tell me there will be a 3.5mm headphone jack, swappable SD card, and user-replaceable battery and we'll be golden.
their phones do tend to have that already...
e: at least the lower end ones I've had
So interesting to me that it's the lower end phones that have the features I want
There will be a 3.5mm headphone jack, swappable SD card, and user-replaceable battery.
Anyone know a release date, I was looking at getting a Pixel for it soon.
Part of their next gen release, so probably 1 year after their most recent refresh cycle
Probably a long shot, but I wish they added a headphone jack and sd card to these phones. These features would also benefit privacy.
Actually, a few of the Motorola phones do have headphone jacks and sd card ports, like the moto G. Which is why I'm really, really hoping those are the models supported.
I've specifically heard that it's going to be a flagship chipset at first, especially, so it definitely won't be the Moto G line. I've heard it's going to be closer to the Moto Signature, which is like 3.3 Monero.
If they don't release this with a phone that has a headphone jack, they are dumber than a box of rocks. Motorola hardware is flat out not great, but the fact that their G line has a headphone jack and is one of main draws and the only reason I've bought them for my kids. If they do release a GrapheneOS compatible phone with a headphone jack, I'll likely end up buying a few of them for the family and it will be my go to recommendation to others.
I personally might not use a headphone jack or SD card slot very much, but for the market that a GrapheneOS phone would be targeting they seem like OBVIOUS things to include.
The crowd getting excited about this partnership is pretty much the same crowd that complains about features like those going away.
You'd think but shiftphone, fair phone, others all abandoned it and thus lost my business at least.
Omg omg. What to do. My old Pix does not fit me anymore. For last 2 month I planned to get new Pix 10 XL. And just out of the blue, this. Should I wait another year for a new Moto?! That's tempting. Although the first gen of new moto devices might be buggy etc.
Moto have been making phones for as long as there has been phones. Software issues would get fixed. I don't think hardware issues are likely.
The biggest risk is Google being evil and cutting both of them off from the Android source code or refusing to sign the releases. Google already refuse signing releases for GrapheneOS on the pixel.
Google already refuse signing releases for GrapheneOS on the pixel.
Do you mean how you get a special boot screen implying you're doing something sketchy?
Google signing things is not something we want. We want phones that don't care if your OS is signed by Google, and banking apps that trust you to pick an OS.
One of the main thing id size of phones, pixel has a series which are comparitevely smaller but I dont know if Moto has any small phones. If only moto make a small phone too, it will be awesome
They have folding phones that's are smallish
I'd rather a 6 inches and under small phone than a folderble.
Fantastic. Excellent news! I would expect nothing less.
It's nice to get confirmation, though I really can't believe it had to be said. Sign of the times, I guess.
If they release one with a headphone jack I'm 100% sold.
Just take my money!
Please make this the industry expected.
i hope they keep this up until i need a new phone
is this only on their graphine devices? or are they leaving their android stock devices unlockable as well
I can't imagine that a standard android version of the same phone would not also have the relockable boot loader. But I wouldn't necessarily expect that feature to be on every phone series though.
Exactly my thoughts/concerns. I seem to remember Motorola has a decent reputation when it comes to unlocking bootloaders, though.
How long have they been selling devices that use graphene?
This will be a first, if the plan materializes.
Will banking apps and NFC pay finally work?
Doesn't that depend on google play services? If so, "probably not, but then again it works currently if you install play services on a separate user profile (or on your main, defeating the purpose of grapheneOS to begin with but more power to you)."
Tell google/banks to stop requiring the spyware, they won't but at least it's better then telling the secure OS to install just a little spyware just so you don't need to carry a wallet.
I would still need to be able to use my banking app to check my balance. That's more than just needing "to carry a wallet." That's the difference of more than $450 in mistakes as that's what happened when i didn't get a live-update to my account prior to the advent of smartphone banking apps. Fuck 5/3. -a dumpster-fire of a banking organization if i've ever seen one.
I would still need to be able to use my banking app to check my balance.
cant you use a web browser for that ltask ? All my banks let me log in via a web browser fir that at least.
Wow! okay, i leaned something new today.
edit I am surprised I never thought of that.
No jack? Send it back.
Genuinely question. If you want something with a modern high performance processor what options do you have that also include a jack?
I think Sony Xperia phones.
https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_vii_5g-13843.php
Snapdragon 8 Elite. Release May 13, 2025.
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