ELI5 Can someone explain the nuke US and Israel problem with having Iran have them? Its their country so they got uranium who are we to tell how they can use it? (lemmy.world)

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Case In point I own 10 acres of land in the USA and find the world biggest oil reserve or the world biggest Uranium reserve and I really really hate Britain for whatever reason you can pick. Does that give the UK to enter and bomb my 10 acres back to the stone age?

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[-] Ashtear@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Aside from those in the nuclear club not wanting to share power, nuclear proliferation causes a lot of problems. It creates more flashpoints for escalating into a world-ending nuclear exchange or for non-state actors to obtain devices for terrorism, etc. The world stood at the brink for a while and decided decades ago the ultimate goal is to reduce the number of nuclear arms.

On the flip side, this is why the recent-ish invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Venezuela, the intervention in Libya, and China's saber-rattling against Taiwan--among others--are serious matters. It teaches regimes around the world you will only be safe if you have a nuclear deterrent. North Korea applied that lesson, and they won't be the last at this rate.

[-] imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

The more countries with a nuclear deterrent, the less advantage countries who already wield nuclear power have.

Iran also explicitly regards the US as its primary enemy(regime change says what) and has been historically unwilling to kowtow to US demands, which really upsets imperialists.

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 month ago

The Iranian government identifies Israel as its number 1 enemy. The USA is second and it's because the USA has historically protected Israel. Antisemitism is an ancient drug.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I was with you until the last statement; it’s not antisemitism; pretty much everyone in the mid east is “Semitic”. It’s being against a nation who lives on land that they believe is rightfully theirs, persecuting and outright genociding people of a shared sect of their religion.

They don’t want to nuke Israel, because they want the land; they don’t want to kill all Jews (other than the far right agitators that seem to pop up everywhere), they want to destroy the nation of Israel.

This makes things a bit messy because if Israel ceased to be a country and Palestine took over tomorrow, Iran would rejoice, but then they’d likely try expanding into surrounding countries, and at least some would want to absorb Palestine into Iran.

They’d also have to come to grips with the US, who has been the great satan for two generations now. Iran has defined itself in relation to the US in the meantime.

Meanwhile, most people living in Iran identify themselves as Persian, and don’t consider this their fight. And the Persian diaspora is pretty large.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

Iran has consistently professed a goal of eradicating israel. Nuclear weapons are the method.

If you loudly declared that you wanted to genocide the British, and started developing nuclear weapons, it wouldn’t be too long before you were prevented from doing so.

[-] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 1 month ago

No, it's Israel that's attacking 7 countries, has nukes, has comitted a genocide against a semite population, while Iran has no interest is having a nuclear bomb, simply because that's what their religion believes, and what the Ayatollah always said. The only thing that can convince them to get a nuke, it's so Israel and US stops bombing them.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 1 month ago

Iran had a full nuclear weapons development programme from the 1980s. The US, Russia and China have all stated they have evidence that Iran is still pursuing a bomb, and the IAEA has recently found Iran in breach of NPT guardrails.