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[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 hour ago

Same here. Google pixel 10 with grapheneOS.

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 4 points 1 hour ago

I really wanted GrapheneOS, but ended up with /e/OS on a fairphone because I refuse to give Google any more money.

After replacing the default launcher with Lawnchair, I'm pretty happy with it. The physical switch (remapped to control the torch) is a nice touch.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 hours ago

The only reason I don't use GrapheneOS is because of thte tight coupling they have with Google's hardware.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

They are currently in talks to use Verizon phones.

Edit: whoops that was Motorola, my bad.

[-] BladeFederation@piefed.social 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It's not that they have a deal with Google, it's that Google's hardware security is best bar none except maybe iPhone. And Graphene is the best way to degoogle, as counter intuitive as it may seem. They are working with other manufacturers to get these security requirements for new phones so Graphene can be put on them.

[-] entwine@programming.dev 4 points 6 hours ago

Why, because you can't afford it (reasonable), because you think it helps Google (unreasonable), because you think it's a privacy risk (unreasonable), or because it feels icky (unreasonable)?

The profits from Pixel hardware sales are a drop in the bucket for Google. I'm pretty sure the only reason it exists is so they can have insight and control over the hardware ecosystem, as without it they'd be driven by whatever Samsung wants to do.

The walled Android ecosystem is where they make the bulk of their money, and Graphene actively pulls people away from that and to something objectively better. Graphene is fully de-Googled and safe from their spyware, and exists outside of their business model. Using and promoting Graphene actively hurts Google, even if you have them $1k for a phone.

Also, there are plenty of cheap second hand pixels on ebay, and Google doesn't see a penny from those sales. Recycling is good for the planet anyways.

[-] raker@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Worth it. Try any Samsung phone with Google's shit and Samsung's shit on top: I swear you these one are practically unusable, like you carrying an bloated mini-ad-computer with you. A implanted bug in your teeth or ass would hurt probably less then this. Before I use any of those, I rather use a "dumb" phone again.

[-] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago

Debloating an S10 was removing a long list of shit. I have seen the list only got longer with the newer models indeed. But one can survive, with the right tools.

[-] ilsimoneviaggiatore@feddit.it 17 points 8 hours ago

Maybe, you could buy a Motorola as well in the near future.

https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/

[-] observes_depths@aussie.zone 32 points 10 hours ago

Buying new is still screwing yourself over. Buy second hand and take advantage of all the fools thinking they have to upgrade every year.

[-] BladeFederation@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

But then I wouldn't have been able to make this meme.

[-] vathecka@lemmy.radio 4 points 7 hours ago

Most used pixels are oem locked verizon ones. They say unlocked, but they only mean carrier unlocked.

[-] sobchak@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago

You can check the model number to tell if it's an OEM. I got my last phone off Swappa which allows you to filter by stuff like model number and condition.

[-] privacydingus@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

this, especially as graphene seems to support devices outside of when google would

[-] Angelus7f@beehaw.org 13 points 10 hours ago

I'm glad that GrapheneOS exist, and it's sad that they are the exception and not the rule.

I think projects like CalyxOS and LineageOS should adopt some feature from GrapheneOS like contact/storage scopes, sandboxed Google Play Services, Network and Sensor toggles.

At the same time, I think GrapheneOS needs to reevaluate their presence in social media.

[-] idkman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago

but seriously, drop the smart phone entirely.

[-] SoloPhoenyx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

While a terminal solution, that's not a real solution. I'll agree replacing everything 1:1 isn't the way we should go. But, we have the technology and infrastructure to enjoy having a mini-PC we can hold in our hand while also maintaining our privacy and avoiding enshitified applications.

It doesn't have to be a zero-sum game.

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

Blackberry could've made such a good comeback. What a shame.

[-] entwine@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago

Nah, fuck them. They were no different from Google and Apple, and had monopolistic tendencies as well. If anything, Google is the lesser evil since Android is at least open source, whereas BB10 was as locked down as iOS.

Blackberry also killed/sold off their hardware teams, so they have no capacity to make a comeback. All they have left is their nostalgia-loaded brand.

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 hours ago

Idk it depends on your reasons for the comparison. I believe they had monopolistic tendencies (as do both Google and Apple, so does Nintendo regarding its hardware as well) but the last time I checked they weren't nearly as focused on surveillance.

I mostly just mean there is a market right now for physical keyboards. That is the extent of depth I intended with this comment. I'm not educated enough in hardware markets to speak on Blackberrys place in them or their ethics.

[-] cdzero@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago

I couldn't do it myself. Ended up going Fairphone and Calyx instead. Just patiently waiting for Calyx to start releasing again.

[-] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago

I'm on the same boat; FP4 + CalyxOS. Do you know have they (Calyx) confirmed anything about the projects future? Last I heard was in around december, and things were quite uncertain back then.

[-] cdzero@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

They're getting closer. Last update was end of Feb. Most of their updates seem to about security stuff I don't understand, but it's nice to see they're working on it.

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