Microslop Winslop 11 with Electroslop

Today it took almost 30 seconds for the context menu to appear when I right clicked on a file in windows explorer. I mean ffs, if I wanted everything to be a browser, I'd use a chromebook.
(Inb4 "install linux", it's a work computer and I don't get a say in OS)
Dude. Same. Windows 11 at work is fucking awful.
My laptop idles at 12 out of 16 gigs of RAM free.
Right clicking takes dozens of seconds, especially on a network share.
Did IT remove a letter mapped network drive? Haha! Fuck you! Windows hangs indefinitely if you open Windows explorer. You gotta fuck around in the registry to remove that shit.
The only good thing about windows 11 is tabs in Windows explorer. Which MacOS and Linux have had for a gazillion years.
Even in Edge, Outlook (a Microslop web app running on a Microslop browser) sometimes takes up to a minute to load on refresh. HOW!? God I hate that company.
Just like the good old days of running Windows 3.1 on an Intel 386sx. We've come full circle.
The one thing Apple has done an amazing job of over the years is providing a solid, clean, common application framework for all of their systems.
They've fucked it up recently, but basically, 90% of the time you'd get the same consistent interface design across all apps, with common design language and iconography and accessibility features. They aggressively deprecate so you have to keep that $100 dev fee rolling, but the experience has been good for the the better part of 20 years (post carbon & X11, pre-liquid ass, the cocoa years).
If everything on Windows is a vibe-coded web app then everything is going to look like different, feel like shit to use, and perform like shit.
If everything on Windows is a vibe-coded web app then everything is going to look like different, feel like shit to use, and perform like shit.
I am happy to report: Windows apps that look different, feel shit to use and perform like shit are already available!
E.g. Teams, the CPU warmer from hell, was rolled out to Windows long ago. It was coded for Electron and couldn't even integrate with Microsoft Windows' taskbar popups. They had to fake one by creating a window that moved itself up from below the screen. Did this break when you changed resolution? Yes it did. Did it break when you moved the taskbar? Yes it did. Did it break when- YES IT DID
The one thing Apple has done an amazing job of over the years is providing a solid, clean, common application framework for all of their systems.
iOS doesn't even have a universal back button, every app has their own way of implementing it.
How has Apple fucked up recently?
As an avid Apple user the most recent ui changes are unfathomably bad. The os has become notably less useful to me in som frustrating ways. I can solve some but not all of it through settings.
You mean since 26? I agree. I dunno who they have at the wheel, but they need to step down lol.
It was this guy. And he left for Facebook. Where he belongs.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/apple-iphone-alan-dye-design-move-b2878226.html
IIRC the person most responsible for Liquid Glass now works at Meta.
The person responsible already did.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apples-ai-chief-abruptly-steps-232333738.html
That’s the AI, which is only a small fraction of the problem with 26.
Spontaneously I had the idea of entering this forbidden word into a browser, just to see what would happen:
microslop.com
The result was truth, and nothing but the truth, I can assure you :-)

Lack of constraints has killed everything. I hope all the RAM and storage becomes unusable people are forced to work with 3mb again.
Nah, they'll just push for streaming compute power and charge you once more!
I'm just waiting for their reaction when everyone is supposed to use cloud desktops and the average application assumes the user has 128 GB of RAM.
You mean when care was taken while coding and an OS could "run on 1GB but suffice with 2GB? I know everyone hated Win 8 but it was a welcomed change plus no bullshit on it at the time.
Real men remember when windows vista launched like shit because it assumed there were way more brand new high memory machines out there than there actually was
Vista is the reason I started using Linux.
Unix was the resson I started using Linux.
Can thank Intel for that, they pressured MS to lower the documented requirements so they could sell more low-end hardware.
Of course, MS executives also gladly went along with it, not like they're innocent in any way.
Also Nvidia and their drivers caused issues, as usual.
If you don't want to write native code, then make a PWA. At least those don't run a separate copy of chrome for each program.
PWAs do have severe limitations though… i wish it wasn’t; i love PWAs but they’ve been massively hamstrung by the big players. sadly, they’re not really comparable other than for basic apps IMO
And or tauri
I'm pretty anti webtech but even I've written GUIs in wails. I hate electron so much, but what makes it worse is that there are so many better options. The people that keep pushing it are stupid*
Windows now Chromebooks?
Repeat with me.
INSTALL LINUX!
Of course MS would want people to develop Electron apps given they're trying to move Windows to the cloud anyways.
This quote from the article is fucking hilarous:
Discord has also openly admitted that its Windows app is a resource hog, and it has rolled out a feature that allows the app to restart itself when RAM usage exceeds 4GB.
Why is my Electron "Hello World" app 10Gb?
Once again, Microslop is a strong contender for Linux Marketer Of The Year award
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Not really surprising considering Windows seems to be increasingly swapping their native shell components for Web Views (you can tell because sometimes they fail to load (: )
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You know it's bad when Brendan fucking Eich is the reasonable one
Why is settings getting so bad, its like using a nonfunctional electron app.
This sentence reads like Microsoft is the inventor of Javascript:
Electron apps are ruining the Windows 11 experience, and even the JavaScript creator has warned against ‘rushed web UX over native,’
So there's 3 things, either they meant Typescript, they are very wrong or they're quoting Brendan Eich and not attributing it to him.
If we're going to slop it up with AI so hard you don't even look at the code can we at least use performant tools and start slopping Rust or something instead, dear god.
FYI for those who don’t know what electron is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_(software_framework)
[…] desktop applications using web technologies (mainly HTML, CSS and JavaScript […])
I'm not listening to Microsoft anymore
Every damn fucking time MSFT is mentioned: Install Linux, Problem Solved.
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