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[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

The footage, posted by TikTok user legallyswiftie13, captures a tense exchange between airline staff and passengers on the plane as the woman explains she is deaf and had already noted the accommodation on her ticket.

Frontier Airlines says passengers who are deaf or hard of hearing can request assistance either during booking or through the airline’s “Manage Trips” tool.

According to the airline’s assistance page, crew members can work with travelers to, “establish a way to share important flight information,” once they are on board.

The passenger, who is visibly emotional in the video, repeatedly says she is willing to comply, but feels humiliated by the situation.

“I didn’t do anything wrong,” she says in the clip while gathering her belongings.

The U.S. Department of Transportation’s Air Traveler Disability Bill of Rights states that airline staff who interact with passengers must be trained to recognize and accommodate the needs of people with disabilities.

Lawsuit incoming. Or expect MAGA to overturn the ADA.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 17 points 2 months ago

Accommodating people with disabilities is "woke".

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Accommodating people for no material gain is “woke”.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Being empathetic, reasonable and human is against MAGAts and "woke".

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[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 2 months ago

I think it is just an easy excuse and buzzword for "you slow down our max profit efficiency by not being simple" like there is an automated process that all of life needs to fit into. So you punish them out of existence by them either not participating or worse.

So we will pass laws to make it so we don't accommodate to squeeze out a little more profit. What a dumb addiction.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

True. Making a scene and delaying a flight is a solid strategy for maximizing efficiency and profit.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Reality rarely goes the way those that think they can control others think it will when they try. But not never.

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

DEI, or whatever stupid new buzzword they're told to use.

[-] forrgott@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

Lawsuit incoming. Or expect MAGA to overturn the ADA.

That's literally on their to-do list, aka Project 2025.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago

expect MAGA to overturn the ADA.

This feels likely.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 2 months ago

I don't know how but everyone seems to agree that if anything requires effort or some level of complex thought away from routine that it should be banned.

Like how did we come to expect life to be so easy?
And the people with power will push it like it is right.

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[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 14 points 2 months ago

Wow. Terrible experience but she just won the lottery, that lawsuit will allow her to retire comfortably.

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[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

In the footage, a gate agent appears to advocate for the passenger while the flight crew insists she must leave aircraft.

Pretty sure I’d get up and walk off the plane. Not sure I wanna be on that flight with that flight crew.

Not sure what these douche bags were thinking. Great advertisement to NOT fly Frontier though.

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 5 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure I’d get up and walk off the plane. Not sure I wanna be on that flight with that flight crew.

IANAL but it might be better for the future lawsuit to be forced off.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

No I meant just as a sympathetic passenger.

You’re likely totally right about the deaf person.

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[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I'm a pilot (not commercial) and if you're still flying Frontier then that is kind of on you.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

If you go to a party, how will you know which person is a pilot?

[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

If they don't flat out tell you, it's usually the drunkest one there

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[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I don’t fly often… like maybe once every few years. And when I do my boss usually books the flight since It’s work related and it’s usually American or Southwest.

Is Frontier that bad?

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes. The last time i flew Frontier they had such a long delay it would have been faster to walk. No that is not an exaggeration.

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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 months ago

It is a low cost airline like Spirit.

So yes.

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[-] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I know airlines must accommodate people with disabilities, but for this flight attendant they should probably make an exception.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Unfortunately I'm not even remotely surprised. Deaf and hard of hearing people are often targets of people who can't handle someone not doing what they say. Once those people feel their words aren't being shown proper deference some of them can't/won't stop their emotional response to regain dominance. Inability to comply (especially in someone who appears capable) becomes refusal in their eyes, and they'll just stretch it back to something we should have done to prevent them from feeling insubordinated. Cops are notorious for it.

I'd never even thought that one might need to tell an airline that you're Deaf. It's a difficult experience as someone hard of hearing, but it's difficult in the way dealing with the DMV is. Ideally you have a hearing person with you, and if not you bring a pen and paper to communicate when you need a shoulder tapped, and just run by context cues and writing for the rest.

Also I hope this lady consented to being recorded and posted. I'd be so humiliated seeing discrimination against me go viral

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Big lawsuit in Seattle some years back as a police officer shot a deaf man in the back for noncompliance.

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[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

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[-] Bazell@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Sounds like a plot from a cheap comedy.

[-] islandcoda42@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

I think deaf people should be allowed a “hearing ear dog” that can listen for traffic etc for you. And you can bring it anywhere.

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago

There are no cars on airplanes don't be silly

[-] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Bet you feel pretty dumb.

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

She had her hearing ear dog with her but just ignored its signal barks! That's why the dog wasn't kicked off the plane because those involved saw it was trying to do its job and didn't deserve to miss its flight.

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[-] aramis87@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

I watched the video when it came out. The first couple sentences the woman speaks do sound as if she's deaf - but then she sounds progressively less deaf as the disagreement goes on. As the public spat continued, I visited her TikTok account and (as of yesterday), she's pinned this December 2024 video where she says the ear doctor told her she's losing her hearing, and you'll notice she's speaking pretty normally.

I have friends and relatives who have become increasingly hard of hearing as they aged, including a couple that have gone completely deaf, and none of them have that "lost hearing before learning to speak" deaf 'accent'. That's because their brain and muscles remember what the movements for those words sound like. They do tend to lose verbal 'crispness' over time, but it takes years. So right off the bat, she was implicitly exaggerating her 'hearing loss' in the viral video.

Someone on yesterday's reddit thread commented in part

I went down a rabbit hole of her TikTok, and she's a disgusting person personality wise. ALWAYS playing the victim. [...] We don't know what led up to this. I hear them constantly bring up "accommodations". My bet is she was making a scene about her "accommodations" and during that the attendant saw the cup. Rather deal with someone whose drunk [...] [they] decided to kick her off so she can [...] calm down.

To which someone else replied

I used to follow her TikTok (until I realized she is super annoying) and she is both a law student and is rather litigious in general. She’s involved in a variety of legal issues with her HOA (which was the story that initially got me to follow, admittedly but it’s no longer interesting).

I'm betting that this isn't the only person who's found her annoying and the HOA storyline now boring and she's lost followers, and this is her latest attempt to ~~recoup followers~~ grift.

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