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Even State Department-funded Human Rights Watch admits that authorities combine legal and illegal methods to obtain convictions: https://text.hrw.org/report/2018/01/09/dark-side/secret-origins-evidence-us-criminal-cases

Combining dragnet surveillance with device hacking is intended in the design of both tools. Hence, State Department-funded Signal dupes you into handing over your identity as part of the population-centric mapping. In custody, your phone will be hacked when it is taken away if it's important.

https://xcancel.com/hannahcrileyy/status/2034273723667161480#m

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[-] gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

In custody, your phone will be hacked when it is taken away if it's important.

Unless I turned off the USB port...

[-] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wouldn't bet my life on GrapheneOS in person despite being a fan of the project due to wanting to treat my phone as a computer

*actually forgot to mention they charged the duress password guy with destruction of evidence this isn't speculative at all lmao

[-] f3nyx@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

personally, my bet is that they don't have anyone qualified enough to pull off an exploit like that (on me).

the problem with my bet: what we've seen is that they won't care, and accuse individuals of terrorism based off the color of their clothes.

[-] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I just refuse to believe Google doesn't have some kind of hardware backdoor, or that Motorola won't once that is up and running.

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[-] gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah tails does have graphene beat, but a lot of folks see a phone as a necessity. Graphene is best if you're gonna have a phone. It can turn off the USB port where it can't even be charged without being off. It can reboot itself if not unlocked frequently enough, putting the phone back into a BFU state.

Now it's possible that there's some exploit a state knows that is not public, but the software they generally use does not work on graphene as long as you are not running a pre-2022 version of graphene. Someone else mentioned rubber-hose cryptanalysis, but like if I'm getting beat for my unlock, then what do I care about getting charged with destruction of evidence?

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

They can turn it back on. Or they can apply some rubber-hose cryptanalysis.

[-] gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

If you have info about someone getting a graphene phone to turn the USB back on, please share as I'd like to read about it.

I don't think saying the state can torture us for info is a phone security issue per se. Especially since the only way to avoid imperial state violence is to shut up and do nothing and hope they don't come for you anyway

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Some people are very protective of Signal.

  • Reason: Disinformation
  • Reason: privacy rule #3: "Try to keep things on topic"
  • Reason: Misinfo, alarmism
  • Reason: This is harmful disinformation

Why not Signal?

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[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Everyone should just wear all blue or some other colour

[-] TyrionBean@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

One reason to use Matrix on your own server.

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