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I came here a few weeks ago after many years of reddit. Altogether I find discussions I enjoy, however, the posts and comments noticeably lean, well, tankie (I didn’t know that term before I came here). It’s not that I am looking for an echo chamber, but I also don’t want to spend my time reading propaganda. I’m really curious about a lot of things outside politics, as well as the opinions and arguments of reasonable people across the political spectrum, but I don’t want to listen to the boring canned lies of fascists and tankies. I realized that people celebrating communist dictators trigger me, and this is something I didn’t have to deal with before I started reading lemmy, I didn’t even know this type existed.
I also notice that accounts created just a few hours in advance come from other instances to brigade political posts. Because of how lemmy works, I can block individual users or communities, but not individual instances. Is there an instance that could be a “safe space” from this kind of brigading and tankie spam? Or a way to use the internet to read interesting things now that blogs died and then Reddit became whatever it became?

Edit: Thanks everyone for the helpful and wholesome comments. Of course, some trolls/wackos showed up as well to say hi.

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

but not individual instances.

You can. If you're using a Lemmy home instance, as you are currently (lemmy.world), in the Web UI, go to your user menu in the upper-right corner, click "Settings", click the "Blocks" tab, and then you can choose instances to block in a panel there.

If what you want is "I don't want auth-left stuff", avoiding hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and lemmy.ml can help. You aren't going to get some kind of ironclad avoidance, but that'll avoid the great bulk of it. Your home instance is lemmy.world. lemmy.world is defederated with lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net for exactly the reason you mention (in fact, I see people who don't like lemmy.world because they consider it liberal, which they don't like) so you already won't be seeing stuff from the first two instances.

I don't think I've personally seen fascist material on the Threadiverse (though there are some people with quite broad definitions of the term), though there are or were some far-right instances out there, based on defederation lists. Most of what little I've seen on the Fediverse seems to me to be on Pleroma, though I haven't spent much time on non-Threadiverse Fediverse stuff.

moderate conservative

The home instance that I use, lemmy.today, has one user (@DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today) that posts a bunch of Trump stuff and a conservative community, !conservative@lemmy.today. I don't know if your definition of conservative and his match up, but maybe you'd find it to your taste; it's probably the closest to mainstream US, Republican material that I've seen with much activity on the Threadiverse. The instance isn't going to be just moderate conservative and moderate liberal users though. But, if that's the kind of community that you might be participating in, I'd imagine that he'd like to have more users.

EDIT: My own personal take is that the long term solution to having people with disparate positions on what content they want to see, above-and-beyond use of moderated communities and admin activity on instances, is to have "curator lists", where people can basically "share" lists of blocks/subscribes/votes or something like that, and other users can subscribe to them. Then you have a list that


for example


excludes or includes content on various grounds without requiring effort on a per-user-who-wants-curated-content basis. I think that Usenet pretty much established that killfiles don't really scale well in combating spam and stuff like that, because there was never a mechanism to share killfiles among users. Anyway, today, there isn't support for something like that on the Threadiverse. I understand that BlueSky has something along those lines.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I enjoy that you gave a serious and helpful answer.

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[-] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Wow, thanks, such a helpful response! I’ll try the web interface for instance blocking. Another sus instance I saw today was blahaj.zone. To clarify, I also didn’t see fascist stuff, I just mentioned it because I felt it important to point out that I also don’t want to see that kind of content. I guess I saw one too many “so you are not a fan of Stalin, you must be fascist” comment today.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can do it through apps too.

ML is definitely everyone's first and fav instance to block, and it sounds like it's time for you too. A lot of the dumb shit will cut down very quickly just by getting rid of that one.

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[-] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

It might be worth adding that there is some backlash on BlueSky for their shared blocklists recently because they can accidentally catch reasonable people or be militarised to deliberately grab extra people. Or at least that's my take. Personally I now consider a lot of social media along the lines of "if I might not feel comfortable with you around the wife and kids, then a block is reasonable like not inviting you to the next dinner party" and that having a block that you can click through removes a lot of these issues (collapsed post /comment with no title unless you click type thing)

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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

You can block individual instances, I have a long list of instances that I have blocked.

[-] Libb@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

What I first did is to limit my home feed to 'subscribed' only. Doing so, I don't see anything from communities I'm not already subscribed to. And since I've made a rather... careful selection of those communities (from various instances), I seldom have have to deal with low quality content/noise. Making it a lot quicker to remove the occasional nuisance that passes through.

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[-] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago

You're not alone in this. Just keep blocking the offending communities or instances until your feed's balance suits you.

[-] Libb@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I use piefed.social because it 's easy to filter out what I consider noise (aka most political content and all kind of excited people ;)

[-] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe have a look again, as I at least could block instances if I wanted to.

I am happy with only having blocked some communities, though.
Mainly the too US-centric political ones.

Interestingly enough that also got me rid of a large part of the more ridicously exaggerated tankie stuff I encountered before.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Are different communities/servers really all that similar? I kinda just assume that people choose a somewhat random instance when they start and stick with it.

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[-] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

goes on communist website
built by communists that got kicked out of reddit
i like this, but what about all those communists???

[-] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago

It's a federated platform, it doesn't operate by the same rules as traditional social media. This is like getting angry that people you don't like use E-Mail.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I largely use Lemmy because it doesn't tolerate conservatives.

It's 2026. There is no such thing as a moderate conservative. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. They don't deserve yet another platform to argue in bad faith on. They've gone too far. Every platform they touch turns into a cesspool of bigotry and garbage opinions they think should be taken seriously or they play victim.

I don't want them on Lemmy.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are a lot of "bipartisan" social media websites (at least they self-advertise as such)
There are also social media apps for mainly conservatives.
Surely there can be one form of social media for leftists to talk to each other.

I enjoy reading anarchists and socialists debate their case because I actually agree with points they make. I can see where each side is coming from and even have change my viewpoints at times.

Some edgy highschooler on the side screaming about how "God wants capitalism" would not contribute anything to the conversation. We already established their ideas don't work, let us actually come up with new ones now.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

i was confused at first when i saw moderate/ or reasonable conservatives. almost every conservative ive encountered just make uniformed rants or opinions about trump. my favorite is when they dont know about trumps actual policies and get defensive over being questioned about it,.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Refusing to even talk to people on the opposite end of the political spectrum just makes you another perpetuator of the massive political divide. Do you actually think anyone’s had their vote swayed by someone who refused to even talk to them. You’re not going to bring anyone to the left by demonising the right.

[-] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

Political divide is things like budget, use of public lands, roads & infrastructure. We’re split on morality, ethics, bigotry, and child rape. A good number of us don’t even bother talking to family members anymore, why would I waste my time trying to converse with the dude who lives up the street from me that has a t-shirt of Donnie surrounded by bikini clad girls and “Chillin’ like a felon”?

Trump is the poster child of chauvinism, bigotry, bravado, greed, deceit, swindle, and zero self-control. His ability to get away with it has emboldened his supports to embrace their worst inclinations and treat their neighbors like Trump does. Granted, they are not Trump, so the average thief, wife beater, or kid diddler still gets arrested, but a lot have figured out they can be blatantly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, or a plain old dick in public and love that there’s no consequences anymore.

I have no interest in winning over people who have no shame, no remorse, and no empathy. Some will come crawling over when the suffering trickles down and finally affects them, but without any self-reflection or moral awakening, they’ll go right back to their old ways as soon as the burden is lifted. Fuck ‘em.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Bro, we don’t want you guys to come over to the left anymore. We want you to stay over there and preferably go back to Russia where you seemed to enjoy the governance and social structure.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Refusing to even talk to people on the opposite end of the political spectrum just makes you another perpetuator of the massive political divide.

Extremely bold of you to assume I haven't spent the majority of my life talking to them and trying to understand their extremist views.

I finally stopped because, as I said, they've lost the benefit of the doubt due to their own words and actions.

How long would you entertain the opinions and actions of Nazis in the name of getting along?

Also, if you think conservatives are going to start voting liberal if we play nice with them, well, you're either very young or really haven't been paying attention.

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[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Real life. If you want moderate, complex opinions. Talk to real people. Not the bots and shills that populate this place.

[-] fun_times@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

You want an online community that allows both the right and the far right? That would be ALL OTHER ONLINE COMMUNITIES!

We came here specifically to get our own forum, where the centre left, regular left and far left are all allowed. This is a forum for the working class, not for the capitalists. And you capitalists can't handle the fact that us workers for once get to have a forum of our own.

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[-] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Piefed makes it much easier to block instances.

[-] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

As someone said, you can block instances but it can be useful to look up an instance on fediseer. It shows endorsements and censures for the instance along with other information:

https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/lemmy.world

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

None. Because that would mean that humans on Earth are being reasonable.

Have you met people? People are the worst.

[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Reasonable Moderate Conservatives don't exist, idiot

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I've heard of something called Facebook that's supposed to be quite conservative. But, I've never visited it.

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[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 2 points 1 week ago

From what I can tell, Lemmy started as wildly left but if you avoid the .ml areas, you're going to get a much broader mix of views.

[-] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 1 week ago

If someone planned to divide and conquer lemmy, they did a fine job. You can tell lemmy is left leaning by how fractured everything is. And it's mostly filled with leftist who hate anyone left from where they are.

[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Reddit also died. It's now a museum piece of dead internet theoy.

[-] Endmaker@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I find that the trick - or at least the idea - isn't to go out of the way to avoid such political discussions; it is to seek out spaces with some niche interest. Discussions would then naturally gravitate around the topic of interest, and political discussion usually doesn't make sense in such a space.

An example topic is anime. Most anime are not political in nature, so commenters in ani.social don't have the chance to go off-topic and discuss politics.

To use an analogy, let's say you are a picky eater. You are given some food (think soup, salad, etc), but one of its ingredients is something you don't like. Rather than try to pick out that one ingredient you dislike bit by bit (which can be tedious), how about adding condiments / dressing / etc to the dish? Enough of those and the taste would change, with the newly-added tastes having overpowered the one you dislike.

In terms of implementation, you basically have to curate your feed somehow. On Lemmy, the straightforward way to do so is to subscribe to topics / communities you are interested in, and participate in just those.

[-] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I see your point, and I did spend some time searching for the topics I enjoy, but let's be honest, there's not so much traffic. A bunch of niche communities have posts every 1-2 months. So naturally, however you sort, some of the more mainstream content (ie political communities, or political content injected in popular non-political communities) will show up in the feed. Which is not a bad thing in itself, but I just can't keep reading if the majority of comments are toxic.

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