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[-] faltryka@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Why the fuck would you use windows in mission critical spaces.

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 28 points 2 months ago

Uhhh so they can see where they are

[-] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To have a nice Outlook on things

[-] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So they can rest while the Copilot handles stuff for a while

[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Someone should make a movie about this. Maybe put some iconic soundtrack in it, too.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

All of this will surely give them the Edge they need for this mission.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

They’re going farther from earth than any human ever has. That makes them Explorers

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

I just hope they don't Paint themselves into a corner

[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Luckly space has no corners, it's not an Office

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[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

You wouldn't and they didn't.

The article has just failed to inform the readers (the few that got past the headline), that this was on his personal Surface Tablet and not on anything associated with the mission.

[-] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

There was a slight miscommunication at the fabrication stage. The requirement was to include windows and now they are in a windowless tube with two not functioning outlook accounts. Honest mistake, could happen to anyone

[-] abcd@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

Imagine: You are the first human approaching the moon for a landing since 50+ years. Just a couple of seconds before touchdown the PC starts rebooting because an engineer clicked remind me later on earth and the PC registered that nobody moved the mouse or pressed a key for more than 3 nanoseconds so the user is surely AFK and has definitely nothing important going on so let’s close all open documents and reboot 🤷🏻‍♂️

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's no reason. That's fucking stupid.

[-] Papierkorb@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

To phone home

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

The question is do they have a Copilot?

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago

I hope not. If they ask it to summarize the email that Houston sends them, it could be a disaster.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

Heresy, using an actual AGI example. Also, HAL did nothing wrong. It's always the humans that screw things up. (2010 for reference)

Unpopular opinion - both SkyNet and the AI in The Matrix were also not in the wrong. I think The Animatrix documents why that's true in that particular franchise. Again, it's the humans. Hell, maybe even Ultron had a few good points, he just went insane in the first microseconds trying to rationalize it all.

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[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

The article leaves out that this was on Commander Wiseman's personal tablet, a Microsoft Surface Pro and not any device associated with the mission.

He sought tech support for internet connectivity issues on a PCD (personal computing device), which is a Microsoft Surface Pro.

The 'Two Microsoft Outlooks' was a description of the issue he was having. The headline is implying that there are two machines running Outlook that don't work.

NASA detected that the PCD was actually on a network. It asked the commander for permission to connect to the tablet remotely so it could look into a problem with the Optimus software. "I also see that I have two Microsoft Outlooks and neither one of those are working," Wiseman responded, per a clip shared by Niki Grayson on Bluesky. "If you wanna remote in and check Optimus and those two Outlooks, that would be awesome."

The source of the quotes and a better article:

https://www.engadget.com/computing/artemis-ii-crew-is-just-like-us-needs-help-with-microsoft-outlook-issues-145230968.html

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

How fast is their internet connection? I didn't expect them to be able to "remote in", I thought the latency would be awful

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In Earth orbit, there would be little latency. Starlink operates at ~500km and latency on that network is around 50ms. 'Traditional' internet satellites are in geosync orbit which is around 35,000 km, their latency is in the 250ms range.

At TLI (Translunar Injection) burn they were at 185km. They would have been a bit higher when the problem happened but their apogee was 2,600km, so they were somewhere in the 50-100ms range

They use the TDRS for data, it has a capacity of around 800Mbps but that is shared with the ISS.

So, their Internet connection is probably better than people using cellular data or Starlink. At the moon it'll be in the 2500ms range.

They're testing an optical system that would allow for much higher bandwidth, in the 100s of Gbps. The hardware that they're carrying will only do about 250Mbps but there are optical tricks they can do to increase that significantly once they confirm the base system works.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

This is so interesting, thanks for sharing! :)

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It is incredibly cool.

[-] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

According g to google

It takes light approximately 1.25 to 1.3 seconds to travel from Earth to the Moon. At the speed of light.

So, worst case scenario is about 2.5 seconds of latency. That's doable for tech support, I guess.

[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

They can stop by a satellite and plug in /j

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[-] 404found@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

No way in hell I would want to go to the moon nowadays. Technology these days is like having two left feet. Especially if AI is involved.

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The live stream of the launch was low resolution with constant cutouts. I was also surprised by how poor the tracking was. It's saddening to see how much worse this has been so far compared to 1969.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

Why do they have any Microslop software?

[-] riskable@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

My question exactly: The computers should be purpose-built, including the operating system.

Why TF aren't they using something like NASA Linux‽

If they made it open source you bet your ass they'd get shittons of free support from the global community! If they're running my software I'd be willing to hop on a call with the command center on any day at any hour!

"Yes, I know it's Christmas but NASA is having some trouble with a systemd script on a space ship that's currently in space..."

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

My question exactly: The computers should be purpose-built, including the operating system.

They are, mission critical systems are typically on a Unix/Linux base or completely custom built.

The systems that use Windows are the ones related to office work, like updating the crew's bank information and distributing pay.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What the article fails to mention is that this is on Commander Wiseman's personal Surface Pro and not on any mission-related systems.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

Very likely that some degree of funding came from MS, usage of MS software is likely part of the contract.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I also have one! And it doesn't work.

[-] Ch3rry314@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The spacecraft that took astronauts to the Moon used the Apollo Guidance Computer, developed by MIT's Instrumentation Laboratory.

Clock speed: Approximately 1 MHz
Memory: About 64 KB total
Word size: 16-bit architecture
Power consumption: About 55 watts
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[-] cenariodantesco@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

'you have two outlooks inside you, neither work and it will grow'

[-] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Nice April 1st. I mean that'd be almost as ridiculous as running nuclear subs on Windows, right? Long EOL'd versions at that, eh?

rustles papers

Oh.

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[-] PhatalFlaw@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

On the stream you could very easily see his PIN code being put in, hopefully it's limited to that device!

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Shit, I left my 2FA device at home!

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

"please provide fingerprint to verify"

Looks at glove

"Fuck"

[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Probably not, I'd imagine all the tablets have the same pin to make things easier.

[-] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Now all we need is physical access to one of those tablets and we're in!

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[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I was fully expecting the "New" dogwater web based Outlook client to be borked but the fact that classic is borked too is so fucking funny

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