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ITT I learn that oligarch gabe nawel is the elon musk of gamers

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[-] torik@lemmychan.org 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The greedy/entitled morons are mad and try every day to convince us to lower our standards so they can make more money.

Anyone who bitches about Steam being a "monopoly" instead of it being DRM should not be taken seriously.

[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 160 points 1 week ago

They're a private company and thus have resisted many of the enshittification trends that run rampant through the industry.

And also their competitors are absolutely atrocious and are completely tone-deaf to what customers actually want.

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 week ago

This is exactly right. As soon as a company becomes public, it's all over. Profits at X%, every quarter, no matter the cost. It's the death of a company.

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 15 points 1 week ago

It doesn't have to go public to do that. It can get sold to private equity. The original owner can pass the business to their kid who has grown up privileged and huffs their own farts. Going public is a guarantee of enshittification but it isn't the only way.

[-] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 129 points 1 week ago

Because they are one of the few mega companies that hasn’t shrinkflated, enshittified, or otherwise crumbled the quality of their offering. Haven’t sold out the privacy of their customer base to advertising companies, and are generally good to deal with for customers and developers.

It’s not a secret formula that no other company can learn from. It’s as simple as not being dicks IMO.

For some reason, most companies seem to grow too a certain threshold at which they sell their souls to profit and will self destruct to get more of it. Steam thankfully isn’t one of them….. yet.

[-] ranandtoldthat@beehaw.org 56 points 1 week ago

They're not beholden to public investors. If they go public or sell to a public company it will change.

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago

If Gaben leaves or dies, Valve is probably fucked.

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[-] ech@lemmy.ca 106 points 1 week ago

All these concern trolling articles about Valve's "monopoly". We never get this shit about Youtube, Windows, local ISPs and other utilities, etc. Super subtle, guys.

[-] torik@lemmychan.org 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

All of those are run by business-school people.

The people who went to business school are mad that Valve isn't running their platform like the rest of the cartel.

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[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 100 points 1 week ago

Every other company could challenge Steam, but instead is enshittified within an inch of its life from the get-go. It's as much that Steam is doing so much right as it is that competitors are doing so much wrong.

Not you, GOG.

[-] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 week ago

GoG was my second digital store, I resisted Steam for so long, but over the years, Steam has become my #1 source for games. It's just so easy, plus they are relatively consumer friendly. With the revamp of Steam Families, it's just so so much easier to have everyone playing on Steam. Plus I have a Steam Deck.

I try and buy games on GoG, set them up with Heroic, and it works great, better than EA, Epic and other storefronts, but just not quite as slick as Steam.

One day St. Gabe will be martyred, and Steam will undergo the unavoidable descent into enshittification, as to will GoG. I do not pledge undying loyalty to any platform, but Steam and GoG have been awesome for so long.

Besides, other than Itch and Humble Bundle, who even comes close in being good to use?

[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago

Gog is good, itch.io is good. They have different niches, and each do beautifully.

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[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 55 points 1 week ago

Because they aren't a true monopoly. They are only a functional monopoly because their competitors refuse to be competitive. Nothing except corporate greed is preventing other storefronts like Epic from being utterly ass.

[-] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 44 points 1 week ago

I'm not mad because they go above and beyond to support Linux, which I prefer to use.

None of the other stores do even the bare minimum for Linux users, while Valve has helped make it easier to play almost every game.

[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 38 points 1 week ago

Valve literally released hardware and said "hey, competitors, feel free to add your own stores and even OS". None of their competitors even bothered to try.

Valve doesn't need to resort to underhanded tactics to secure their monopoly like other monopolies. They just know that they provide a good service.

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[-] Trihilis@ani.social 37 points 1 week ago

Bad take. The competition is literally constantly shooting themselves in the foot by offering a worse service and doing nothing to make gaming better.

It's not steams fault that companies like EA, Epic MS etc. are rotten to the core with their business practices and no one wants to use their storefronts.

GOG is the only one i might consider an alternative that isnt completely rotten.

[-] torik@lemmychan.org 1 points 4 hours ago

That's the thing, though. The people who went to business school want to make sure all businesses operate like gas stations across the street from each other.

Valve being relatively autonomous in their decision making throws a wrench in that scheme.

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[-] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 week ago

Are they a monopoly? They're definitely huge, but a lot of the games on Steam are non-exclusive, and they don't actually control the rights to the games. Like, they don't own the IP, they don't restrict content to their platform, and they have some pretty functional if smaller competitors like GOG and Epic. They also make their platform compatible with game keys that weren't actually sold on their platform.

They're definitely something with substantial market dominance as a platform, not I'm not sure monopoly is really the word.

[-] torik@lemmychan.org 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Microsoft has a bigger monopoly with Excel, but we never hear entitled scumbags and useful idiots complain about that.

It's all about lowering standards so the business school cartel can take more money from the rest of us.

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[-] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago

I skimmed most of this thread and didn't see anyone mention that Steam actually supports third party stores. They let developers sell game keys on other storefronts for free (with limits, granted—the number of keys they can generate depends on sales on Steam, I think.)

Fanatical and Humble only exist because Steam handles all of the games delivery infrastructure for them. That's, like, the opposite of monopolistic behaviour. Name another tech monopoly giving their services away for free so other directly competing businesses can profit.

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[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 34 points 1 week ago



This is why bro. Other game launchers feel predatory and rushed. There is no reason for anyone to install the EA App or Ubisoft Connect other than playing that two games from those studios. The only alternative is the Epic Games Store which has the fucking worst UI in existence and has only got a microfraction of the minimum functionality useful to build a community around a videogame. It also lacks native Linux support, forcing users to use alternatives like Heroic Games Launcher

Steam wins because it does nothing to increase "shareholder value" and it just cares to be a good platform for the users, it is respectful of consumers and actively fights corporate greed and publisher dishonesty

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[-] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago

Used to prefer GOG over Steam. GOG did nothing for Linux gamers though, they didn't even release their Galaxy client for Linux. Will prefer GOG over Steam again when this changes (they said recently they want to change this, but only after Valve has already invested a lot into making Linux gaming a real thing with almost zero friction). That's also basically the best thing that Valve has done - they really did help to make Linux gaming a reality, and Linux gaming is an important step towards toppling Windows' dominance. They deserve a lot of credit for that. But there are also plenty of other things that you can criticize about Steam.

If you're on Windows though, you should definitely always prefer GOG over Steam because it's DRM-free (you buy it, you own it). Of course, there are many more games only available on Steam, so it might not be possible all the time, but at least you should prioritize your choices.

We also have plenty of other monopoly problems, one of the biggest is YouTube.

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[-] TwoSteps@programming.dev 31 points 1 week ago

Because of all the other companies in that picture (except GOG, they're cool).

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[-] x3lz@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago

Steam is not a fucking monopoly. Take my downvote

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago

Other game launchers: "fuck Linux it's so small"

Valve: "everyone deserves to play games :)"

Other game launchers: "Steam is fucking monopoly!!!"

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[-] Binturong@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

Tepid take: The only people calling Steam a monopoly are the loser competitors who can't find a more extortive business model that will actually compete in their quest to syphon wealth out of the gaming ecosystem. Also 'news' outlets that are being paid to assert this narrative, and dumbshit reactionaries who believe those narratives. Sorry Epic CEO, you can't cry and shit your pants into forcing a successful company to make room and give you a cut. The market will ony respond to a better product here, and Epic ain't it. EA learned this lesson with their shit-ass Origin product years ago, brand loyalty takes a long time to build and is a powerful variable, and steam is good at not fucking with the gamers, or at least only within parameters of acceptability, it appears.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago

Tim Sweeney's on record saying he doesn't see any point in making EGS any better since it's "good enough" lol.

Out of anyone, they had the best chance to make it, with the budget they had, and the fact that so many people have their launcher installed for Unreal Engine or Fortnite reasons. Yet they put so much money into exclusives, and none into having a compelling UX.

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[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 27 points 1 week ago

Valve doesn't abuse the monopoly.

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[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because it's one of the only functional monopolies that got there by attracting users rather than M&As to quash competitors and regulatory capture. Monopolies shouldn't just intrinsically make you angry, they just are usually bad because they will have done anticompetitive things in order to become a monopoly.

As the article concludes:

Valve Corporation didn’t win by locking people in. It won by making sure they never really wanted to leave.

[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 week ago

Really simple: because they are running it like tax funded infrastructure and not like an extortion racket.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 24 points 1 week ago

Pretty much because the others are worse, and will continue to be until Gabe dies and they start to really squeeze all the value out of it they could.

[-] kronusdark@beehaw.org 23 points 1 week ago

I feel like this is something that could easily shift with one misstep by Valve. It's good now because for the most part they have made consumer friendly choices.

I am really worried about what happens when Gabe kicks the bucket.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 21 points 1 week ago

The other contenders mostly are bad.

Drm-free still exists.

They provide a lot of value without charging the end user very much.

Microsoft could have done this except they're run by idiots and assholes. Nothing technical stopped them from launching a good store platform. They just didn't want to.

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[-] MrRandom@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago

what difference not having shareholders has

[-] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 week ago

Other Launchers don't feel like tools. The other stores feel like a fucking nuisance.

The only other usable options are itch.io and GoG.com, who allow downloading the games directly on their websites, without the need for any launcher.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 18 points 1 week ago

It works, and since this is PC, we can very quickly pivot to something else if we need to.

[-] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 17 points 1 week ago

Valve treats me like they actually want to earn ky business and they use their vast wealth to make cool shit. Valve is also the reason I no longer have to deal with Window's bullshit to keep playing my favorite video games.

Yes, I would love to see more altruism, but Valve is, at the bare minimum, the epitome of moral neutrality as a business. So there's nothing to really be mad at them about, and rather I have some gratitude for how they've used their money.

On the flipside, as others have pointed out, everyone else keeps shooting themselves in the foot. The only one thar hasn't (to my knowledge) is GoG, but they're never going to reach Steam status in a Capitalist society. And their social features are unavailable on Linux.

The next closest after that is Epic, who's shitty, buggy ass launcher and storefront is so horrendous that when they give games out for free, people buy said games on Steam instead.

So... Why would we be mad at Valve for their competition being shit?

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If Steam is a monopoly, then explain how alternatives or competitors still exist. This entire "Steam is a monopoly" is bullshit because competition did and still does exist.

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[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago

I mean what, am I supposed to be 'preemptively mad' because they might become worse one day?

Like I don't understand why I'm supposed to be mad, it's a service that's useful and good, maybe it won't be one day but what am I going to do about that?

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