Don't have a Framework, but I think it's due to the whole 'modern standby' approach where the firmware doesn't implement 'standby' anymore and just let's the OS put everything into as low power state as possible, component by component.

It doesn't work well for Windows either, which is why a Windows laptop I have will 'standby' for maybe 15 minutes before shutting itself down for 'hibernate'. I figure they decided that NVME means resume from hibernate is 'good enough' and modern standby is such a power hog that they can't pull it off.

Problem in Linux is that they view SecureBoot as a promise they cannot keep if they resume from disk, so they block hibernate if SecureBoot is enabled, making it hard to bank on as a reliable recourse.

I recently installed Mint on my laptop and I have this problem, too. Windows 11 sucks, but I could just close the laptop and not worry about it and still have battery for a long time.

Now I assume it'll last with the lid closed maybe a day or two at max, and even then I'm plugging it in the moment I open it back up.

This, so much this. I also run Fedora.

I can't just close the lid and put it in my bag without worrying.

Honestly, most times of I'm not actively working on something, I just shut it off completely before packing it away. It starts plenty fast, and at least I know I'll actually have battery when I need it. Instead of finding it dead or at 10%. So annoying.

Agreed! Plus I buy almost all tech reburbished or used these days. Most of the time it's a way better deal especially when running Linux. At worst sometimes the battery is bad so I only buy stuff where that is replaceable.

Reduce

Reuse

Recycle

And in that order

They could put it on eBay. Win-win?

Ofc if you want to throw away your old laptop you should give it to me instead :3

Unironicaly though there should be a mass program where old PC parts and tech are donated from people who don't want it to people who do (for example an old laptop that a retro collector might want or a broken laptop someone else might be willing to fix)

You shouldn't buy based on promises or assumptions. But if I had to guess, I'd say an OLED panel may come eventually. And it would likely be backwards compatible.

Original FW13 owners already had the original glossy panel, then the new matte higher resolution panel came out as a drop in replacement, and now this new touch panel is also a drop in replacement.

I already have a FW13 with the matte high res panel, I won't be going to touch panel. But maybe if they do an OLED I'd jump to it.

My plan is not to upgrade unless I need to. If something breaks, it'll get the newest version of whatever that thing is.

Unless I feel hampered by my 7040u in 3 or 4 years, then maybe I'll do something about it? But I really don't need that much horsepower in my life.

I'm just glad I have the option. And happy to support a company giving me the option.

I think framework are worthy of support even though the company is American.

1. Regardless of who you buy from... Manufacture including assembly is done in east Asia. That's where most of your money is going.
2. Framework are not tech giants. They're a small company battling giants.
3. The ethos of ownership, repair and upgrade needs supporting.
4. They've been following through on their promises.

So yes, I'm not buying US goods as much as I can also. I make an exception for Framework. They're the resistance in an occupied nation.

They are sold in Europe, no need to wait!

I propose a little cultural exchange. I'm sure Framework and Fairphone could stand to do a little cross pollination.

In my experience Power Management is broken on Windows and Linux the same way. Some laptops do work better then others, but none of both Systems works fully reliable. My work HP Elitebook 845 G8 also has the problem of waking itself up in my backpack and boiling to Death (empty Battery). And it is running on Windows.

Don't know if Apple with their MacBooks have similar problems.