Has this man even been inside a Starbucks recently? They used to be loungy places people could chill, now they're all bland, sparsely decorated, dirty, and uninviting. There is absolutely nothing premium about Starbucks, it's basically a fast-food chain. Once again demonstrating how far removed CEOs are from reality
Fast food is expensive too. And it’s hurting their sales, and they can’t figure out that they need to slice profits, not the product.
Burger King is just inedible now. And by that I mean twice now I've eaten there, and then within an hour my stomach upset. Then followed by 12 hours of what can only be described as "VIOLENT DIARRHEA". Yes, all caps, because thats the urgancy that situation called for.
Two different locations too. Plus the first time I went with a friend, and she got it too. The first time I chalked it off to being that particular location. Then, nearly 8 months later, different location, different city. Same result.
After that, Burger King is officially just as banned from my diet as taco bell is. Inedible.
Inedible Now? Your same experience was mine over 15 years ago. I was getting stomach pains and shitting really bad every single time I had BK. He’ll even towards the end I couldn’t even swallow a fry. I had started switching to onion rings cause the fries left a wax taste in my mouth after.
I haven’t had BK since then. 2010 ish. I ended up dropping all fast food after Covid cause the prices just don’t match up with quality anymore.
I heard a single combo meal at McDonalds clocks in near $20 these days. Fuck that noise. Not for a thin, dry “meat” patty that gets microwaved and then thrown between a pair of bread slices. No sir. No thanks. I rather spend that $20 on take out from a real restaurant.
Came here to say this. What ‘premium’ experience is he talking about?
Something tells me that the only Starbucks he actually has used recently is likely a very high-end version for the C titles in HQ, meters away from his office and for employee use only.
They're calling it an experience becuase consumers are indicating they are willing to pay for experiences while pulling back spending on daily expenses.
Consumers mean concerts and vacations and this douche knows he isn't actually offering an experience so he does the mind trick where he says the term over and over to associate in the consumers mind the idea that drive thru coffee is an experience.
Absolutely. It was a clear attempt at adding ‘perceived value’ by using the word ‘experience’ so many times. He knows what type of consumer he’s speaking to.
These interviews are really just PR opportunities for guys like this (in their perception).
When I want to lounge at a café, I'm expecting a warm, inviting interior, some plants, bookish decor, smooth jazz, hip staff, and a coffee that could only be produced by coffee geeks with attention to detail at every step of the process...
You walk into a starbucks today, everything is cold and industrial, they've got pop music blaring on the radio, and the staff all look miserable. Oh, and the coffee sucks.
I remember 90's era Starbucks and a bunch were still pretty grungy corners of strip malls. But the point was they were still coffeeshops, despite being a chain that went corporate.
Now they're glorified coffee stands with real estate baggage and little sandwiches. And zero of that 'third place' shit they used to dominate the market.
They should have sent the manager and crew to the thrift store with a corporate CC and a box truck for furniture. Instead it's bland, depressed, "I can't believe it's not cardboard™."
I had a Starbucks franchise owner tell me that Starbucks doesn't sell coffee; [they] sell an experience.
Then improve the experience, I told him. I seriously have no idea how they're still around.
I hate this trend of putting shit at the beginning that I then have to hear again less than 10 seconds later. Like I get it's for grabbing you but the second I start hearing the same thing again I immediately close the video.
It matters a lot more on platforms like TikTok, where there's no title, no thumbnail, all you have is the first two seconds of the video before someone swipes away
So, the problem isn't the video, but the fact that places like tiktok exist. Even worse is that they're spreading
Prioritizing "experience" over coffee itself is not new for Starbucks. Even before the $9 price tag, their prices far exceeded their (low quality) coffee because they're selling the experience.
Coffee roasters sometimes refer to them as "Charbucks."
I don't give a fuck how much they charge for coffee. I don't know why anyone would. You buy it, or you don't. It's not fucking insulin. No one needs to buy their shitty products.
This is really all that needs to be said. Nobody needs Starbucks coffee, so either pay the price or don't go.
Fuck Starbucks. It’s not the first time I mention this, and I’ll keep mentioning it: When Corona hit Germany, the government reduced the VAT to prevent restaurants from going bankrupt in 2020. Starbucks gave every customer the finger and did not lower the prices, keeping the difference for themselves. I was never a regular customer but this made me blacklist them for life.
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I'm surprised he didn't mention the "sense of pride and accomplishment" buying a $9 coffee would bring -_-
It's not even good coffee...
Wow that guy doesn’t even look human. No wonder he had no issue mandating all employees return to the office while he flew a private jet from California to Seattle every day.
Its also hilarious he has that ear piece in his ear so that his PR team can feed the machine the 'correct' focus-grouped response to every question.
He doesn't even look to the camera. He's looking to some script that is behind.
He's the same piece of shit that fired all the corporate Chipotle employees in Denver to move their headquarters to Newport Beach, because that's where his house is.
Income cohort...
The interviewer's inability to hide his reaction is priceless

Premium my ass.
I love our local coffee place. We bring our dogs. The baristas bring them cups of whipped cream. The place is cozy and they sell art from local artists. And the coffee is actually good and doesn't taste like someone burned it. I usually make my own coffee, but it's nice to go there once a week and just enjoy being there. That is premium.
Be careful with the whipped cream cups.
This was/is a starbucks thing and it's really fucking bad for the dogs. It can be a huge amount of fat the equates to a human eating multiple big macs.
Not actually Starbucks related but the other day I wanted a coffee so I bought a $5 48oz bottle of cold brew at the grocery store and helped myself to a courtesy cup, lid, ice and straw so I could drink it right away. So for the same price as probably a 16oz cold brew I got that and the remaining ~3/4 of the bottle to take home.
Anti union piece of shit
Also interview only included CEO, no labor representation
"Starbucks CEO, easily replaced by AI. Here, we'll show you why that's the case."
I mean the sterility of his appearance could’ve fooled me.
Calling the stuff you buy at Starbucks coffee? What they sell is all sorts of sugar in a cup. This is not a coffee place, it is a diabetes hole.
you are allowed to get a black coffee
No one does that though, because Starbucks coffee is terrible. It’s over-roasted charcoal crap. If you order a black coffee, do yourself a favour and get a nice, light-roasted pour over from an independent cafe serving locally roasted, single-origin coffee. Good coffee should smell like a mix of dried fruit, floral perfume, and toasted nuts, not burnt rubber.
The most over roasted slop around, sure. There's a reason why that place serves pure diabetes, their black coffee is kinda gross.
maybe the coffee is gross so that it can pair with the diabetes. That much sugar needs a very strong flavor to offset it.
Or Starbucks just uses the absolute cheapest beans on the market and then burns them for that truly consistent char flavor, which they then have to turn into diabetes to make palatable.
Either way, it's just not good.
They need some way to pay for the year he commuted to Seattle by private jet.
Also, he is the asshole who said to keep raising the prices at Chipotle.
Fuck him. I will drink Folgers (and I do) before I'll drink your shit.
I work an a facility next to a few fast food joints, a Japanese restaurant, an Indian restaurant, and a Chipotle. Pretty much the only restaurant we don't order from is Chipotle.
... Chipotle is real restaurant prices for a fastfood experience.
It's worse than that. Obviously he's not talking about the coffee. He doesn't even paint it as good-quality coffee. He's saying people go for the experience of enjoying the coffee in a pleasant environment. He actually believes people go to Starbucks because they like being at Starbucks.
That used to be their whole shtick, the third place experience. They wanted people to treat Starbucks as where they go when they want to relax or meet with friends, a place outside of their home and work, where the baristas knew their names and would chat and make them feel welcome. Especially a lot of older folks liked that, and would make it part of their routine. Starbucks threw that all away when they went to prioritising drive thru and mobile order/pay systems. It's a shareholder business and this is capitalism. It's either neverending growth or death.
ITT: people saying they still won't go to Starbucks as if this CEO gives a shit
OK, don't go. You didn't go before you're not going now. Nothing has changed.
Hm… Well, I for one did go to Starbucks. A LOT. For 20 years of my life. And I’m done with them.
Now I’m not going to pretend that the CEO cares at all about me. I’m also not going to pretend that their coffee was bad or that things are going to change because I don’t buy their product or that I’m some great moralist for quitting Starbucks. I just don’t like Brian Niccol and I don’t want him to have any fraction of my money. Dude’s a piece of work and the market of other options for coffee is more saturated than the caffeine content of my bloodstream.
I mean, I am relatively ok paid, but $9 would be about 1-1.5 hours of my wage before tax. If I want to live in a both economy and ecology wise manner, I had calculated it to a cup of $4 coffee every two weeks, IF I don’t eat out and instead use frozen home made lunch boxes every work day.
If I can skip a coffee a week and instead donate to a charity or local homeless person of my choice. Or save my money for the LGTBQ+ scouts. That’s way better.
Haven’t had Starbucks in over a year, maybe three, the coffee wasn’t worthwhile of the wait or money and the last time the barista gave me oat milk instead of almond. No faults to the barista, I think the chain stresses them out.
I’m struggling with your math here… $9 is 1–1.5 hours before tax—so you’re paid between $6–9 per hour? Did you mean after tax?
Either way, that doesn’t sound like you’re paid “relatively ok.”
You’re right, my math was way off. I shouldn’t reply to posts while on migraine.
With that said, not ever drinking from Starbucks ever again.
Oof, I can relate to struggling with writing a migraine. I hope you are feeling better!
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