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[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

American culture is stuck in adolescence because culture has shifted towards the complete annihilation of any and all significant rites of passage into adulthood.

A child is someone that needs to be told what they can and can't do.
An adolescent is someone who tests the limits of what they can and can't do.
An adult is someone who enforces socially responsible limits of what they themselves and others can and can't do.

Never telling people "these are now your responsibilities towards others and we all expect you to take them seriously" in an in-equivocal ceremonial way is how you destroy a society.

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

I don't think you can say that no rites of passage means not becoming an adult. Rituals smooth or explain transitions, they're not a requirement for the transition to happen.

And besides their are plenty of rites of passage into adulthood in the US - first car is huge, moving out of home, first job, etc.

I don't think they reached adolescents. They are still just wasting time escaping like when mum hands em the iPad so she can do the dishes.

[-] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Nothing wrong with escaping here and there if responsibilities are fulfilled.

The problem is when escapism becomes the purpose of living.

The great lie of western culture is that we are first and foremost, individuals and we should strive for maximum freedom i.e. our purpose is to be free. Let's take a look at the people in the world that can afford maximum freedom and have no practical accountability and see how/what they're doing.... yeah...

Purpose is important. If purpose strays too far away from "the best for others", bad things start happening really fast.

[-] BehavioralClam@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Thats not describing "kidults" , but basically your regular basic normie consumer; just with "disney" tints, or a "geeky" millenial. People trained and raised to believe someone else always has the answer and the responsibility, and that the only thing they can do to somehow change their situation in life is to buy/consume something different.

[-] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Disney adults are the most cringe shit ever.

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

I worked at big CA-based drug company, granted it was largely a phone-room but it was still a fairly serious job, with serious pay.

Most staff came up from CA and loved disney so hard. Disney movies were a topic at meetings, they expected everyone would know the characters, used disney references in presentations, characters as test patients, etc. Managers too.

Finding others who hated disney was like finding stoners at work before it was legal - all euphamisms and inuendo until you work out who to trust: "No i don't really have a favourite character", "I'm not familiar with that", "No, I ugh... haven't seen... i'm not super into... Oh thank god, yes, of course i fucking hate disney, who could possibly like the least interesting version of a fairytale marketed by a billion dollar empire founded by a nazi and evil enough to copyright happy birthday?!"

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

No families can afford theme parks in this economy.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

This is more or less the reason.

Disney has limited space in the parks. You can only have so many line skipping and spot reserve schemes before people spend the entire day in line for attractions. So they've been increasing prices. This combined with the glorious "k shaped' economy means that childless millenials are one of the largest demographics that have the money and nostalgia to attend them.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Really didn't expect that reference...

In Simulacra and Simulation, French theorist Jean Baudrillard once wrote that Disneyland is “presented as imaginary in order to make us believe that the rest is real.”

Baudrillard now says he was off base with that book, but it's hard to write it off after the last decade.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

In Simulacra and Simulation, French theorist Jean Baudrillard once wrote that Disneyland is “presented as imaginary in order to make us believe that the rest is real.”

If you want to experience a worked example of this...

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