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[-] radix@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago

Guess I'll have to limit myself to the 10,000 other games to play on PC, then.

[-] ericwdhs@discuss.online 15 points 4 days ago

Also, it's not like most or all of these exclusives won't eventually be in emulation territory.

[-] jonathan@piefed.social 10 points 4 days ago

PS4 is 13 years old and a tiny fraction of its games are considered "playable" in emulators so far.

Each generation has been exponentially more challenging to emulate than the previous, so don't hold your breath for reliable PS5 emulation.

[-] ericwdhs@discuss.online 1 points 2 days ago

You got a lot of good replies already, but I wanted to add that my "eventually" was intended to be vague enough to cover multiple decades. I occasionally play 30 year old games already, so half that is actually making good time in my book.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

Really? I've observed it being less challenging. People have more experience, the talent pool is larger, the tools are better, and the hardware is closer to PC hardware to begin with.

[-] Kraiden@piefed.social 10 points 4 days ago

Also PS4 is x86, not some weird proprietary BS like PS3 was, and look how far that's come!

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

PS4 is 13 years old and a tiny fraction of its games are considered “playable” in emulators so far.

shadPS4 Initial release September 29, 2023; 2 years ago.

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Each generation has been exponentially more challenging to emulate than the previous, so don’t hold your breath for reliable PS5 emulation.

Not really. PS4 is easier to emulate than PS3, if you are on x86 PC hardware. The development just didn't have as much time as PS3 yet, but its not exponentially more challenging than PS3. PS5 is basically a PC, so emulating games wouldn't be THAT hard. Like with PS4, they don't need to emulate everything of the CPU (if you are playing on PC).

[-] jonathan@piefed.social -4 points 4 days ago

You're totally right, it's just x86 so it'll be easy. That's why 13 years later they made so much progress on PS4 emulation.

/s

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Your assumption is that they developed the PS4 emulator 13 straight hardcore. There are systems that are harder to emulate, just because it is more demanding and much more complex like PS3. It needed loots of time and efforts to be on this level of RPCS3 emulating PS3. On the other hand, the developers of shadPS4 made progress very quick once they started fully developing the project. And you don't even have to have a huge PC, because lots of the x86 instructions can be reused on your PC without emulating the whole thing. That's what it means its the same architecture, it requires less resources to run than emulating it in full.

Before getting sarcastic, you should inform yourself about topics you are arguing.

shadPS4 Initial release September 29, 2023; 2 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShadPS4

[-] jonathan@piefed.social 0 points 4 days ago

You seem to be suggesting that the release date of a single emulator is the starting point? We're not supposed to count the prior years? No one tried before that? There's no prior art that people can build on?

Lots of projects started and were abandoned. A brief search and I can find at least 2 public projects started over 5 years ago, and many more abandoned efforts.

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Those emulators work differently (shadPS4 doesn't emulate the entire CPU) and they were nowwhere near in a usable state. shadPS4 didn't took the work of these prior emulators, its done from scratch. At this point, you just put random arguments without proof. This is not a situation like Switch emulators where they just take prior work and keep working on it. shadPS4 was not 13 years in development. 2 years ago at launch it didn't even launch a game. They made fast progress in short amount of time. And because the hardware is not emulated fully, you can run it in a relatively "weak" hardware given what its emulated.

Your previous argument that each generation is exponential harder to emulate is nonsense. That's my point. Some hardware and generations are much harder than their successors, relatively speaking. PS5 emulation is not that far off from PS4, as the hardware is extremely similar (just stronger, like newer PC is stronger). Compared to previous generation of PS3 which was massively different.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Was he worried the brand had too much good will? Because it didn't but its sure to be worse now.

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 23 points 4 days ago
[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They saw how much money they could make being just another multiplatform publisher, and it scared the shit out of them.

The console war is over.

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 points 4 days ago

But this is a retraction of that. Like some last ditch effort to make PlayStation viable as a console. Console makers will eventually have to accept that it will move from purposed to general devices no matter what they do.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago

They saw this as nothing more than a tease for PC gamers, in the hopes that the taste they've gotten will result in those PC gamers buying a console in order to play the sequels.

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 2 points 4 days ago

Consoles in modern times are such adumb idea

[-] meowmeow@quokk.au 20 points 4 days ago

As a PlayStation user, I think this is crap. I hate how I can’t play PC games and they never plan to come out for PlayStation… so this is equally crappy for PC users.

[-] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago

Except that every one of these games will eventually be emulated on PC.

[-] meowmeow@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago

Haha, that’s probably true!

[-] Stupendous@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

That's like 1 video game a year

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 3 points 4 days ago

That you need dedicated otherwise useless hardware to play yes

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Hey now, it's perfectly capable of running the same games released on every other platform, for the low hardware price of... six hundred dollars?! Fuck off!

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago

Its not it can't and my computer is better

[-] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Sony seems to be completely out of touch with the reality. During the time when the console prices have skyrocketed to the point it's no longer an option for entire segment of the population, they decide that it's right time to go back to console exclusive games? It also baffles me that there are fully grown men that are actually celebrating the return of console exclusives. What a bizarre tribalism at work here. I think I'm just going to slowly work through my back catalog until some semblance of sanity returns.

This is super fucking dumb. Fire that man.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

He is serving his function. Sony is gripping their platform with both hands, after nearly letting it slip away. The future presented by Helldivers 2 and various Spider-Mans is one where Sony's a relatively large publisher for several important studios. The future where they deny reality and cosplay the 90s console war for another decade is one where they are the biggest fish in a small pond, and that makes more money, somehow.

I'm unclear how that will play out if Microsoft simply declines to release another Xbox.

[-] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 7 points 4 days ago

This is Sony, folks. Once they get in a mood to hang onto something needlessly, they do it.

The last Betamax cassette was manufactured in 2016.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

We'll see. None of these games ever had day 1 releases on PC. The next mainline God of War and Horizon games aren't even announced, so things may change by then.

[-] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Haha yeah wow all fucking, what, like one of them a year? I’m sure I’ll miss them.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 4 points 4 days ago

Huh. Guess I won't be getting any of Sony's games then. I have no interest in a console.

[-] CaptainCancel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

I don’t get it. If they want to increase PlayStation Plus subscriptions, they should limit the multiplayer games they port to PC. The last time I bought a console for a single player game was Final Fantasy 7 back in 1997.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Well aside, it's surprising nothing on PS2 tempted you. Several tentpole titles did famously get PC ports, but if you're more about Kingdom Hearts than GTA, that machine was like $150 by 2004.

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