That’s not a choice, that’s barbarity
It's the plot of a number of Dickens novels.
Incidentally, when Charles Dickens was 12 years old, his father was thrown into prison for debt. Charles was forced to leave school and work ten-hour days at a boot factory in order to help support his family.
Colonial empires love imposing debt bondage on minority communities as a means of justifying wage slavery. Also as a form of collective punishment.
Also incidentally... The United States is stealing Afghanistan’s money.
Specifically, it has sequestered $3.5B of the $7B in the New York Federal Reserve branch owed to the Afghan Central Government, to be paid out to families of the 9/11 attacks. The remaining $3.5B is untouchable by the current government as well. And sanctions prevent Afghans from accessing global credit and trade, blocking them from doing business with neighboring Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbeckistan, and China.
The bankruptcy and trade sanctions mean Afghans can't import relief aid or supplies for capital improvements. And the article illustrated the end results.
ah, nothing quite brightens my morning like the Victorian strife and woe
I mean, the choice is, that or all the other children starve and die.
It's an impossible situation. Sophie's choice, trolley problem, call it whatever.
But I don't think anything is gained by calling the parents making this decision barbarians. If they had options they likely would not be forced to choose in this manner. What is worth your criticism and admonishment is the governments who create these conditions, and the kind of people who see this suffering as an opportunity to buy a child wife. Totally justified calling those people barbarians.
I mean, the choice is, that or all the other children starve and die.
that isn't the choice. that's still gonna happen, he's just delaying it a bit by sacrificing a child, and I didn't call anyone a barbarian.
and what you should be doing - rather than making a Straw Man argument to admonish me for making an argument that I didn't make is to expend your energy to actually admonish the governments responsible for this family's condition.
which is what I did in the first place.
why tf are you coming off so hostile at me? Jesusfuck man, go touch some grass. Acting like I'M the one, personally, who put these people in this impossible situation and attacking the hell out of me for nothing. You need some help.
You accused me of saying something I didn’t say and making an argument I didn’t make. I have a right to call you out for that.
If you don’t like that, I suggest you don’t do that again.
you wrote a shitty thing, got called out for it, and now you're playing victim and then going off on me for it? Holyshitballs, my dude, you have a complex.
You wrote and implied that they're barbarians. Choosing to use culturally charged language like "barbarity" to describe impoverished people of a 3rd world country. Might as well have just dogwhistled that they're "savages". That's how it can be read. Might I suggest YOU don't do that in the future. And maybe YOU need to log off, because YOU have problems. You don't have the right to police a goddamn thing I say.
If what you wrote can be misread, that's YOUR fault for wording it badly.
you wrote a shitty thing, got called out for it, and now you're playing victim and then going off on me for it? Holyshitballs, my dude, you have a complex.
That didn’t happen. Any literate person can see that, and don’t make things worse by perpetuating such a transparent lie.
This whole thing started because you chose to use such an antagonistic tone, you know. Civility costs infinitely less than this morality contest.
choices, lol
you chose to make a comment. a hostile, argumentative comment.
and you blame be for that.
heh
you chose to make a comment. a hostile, argumentative comment.
I'm sure you'll try to turn this against me, but I really don't understand how what I wrote could be construed as 'hostile'. I made a fair point. Someone replied to you sincerely, you disagreed with something they said, and you took offence to that and decided to respond in contempt (for some reason). If pointing that out is hostile, then I've got some bad news about reality. Unless you're mistaking me for the other commenter. Point still stands tho.
I made a fair point.
you plainly didn't
Someone replied to you sincerely
No. As I clearly pointed out, they made a Straw Man argument, accusing me of saying something I obviously didn't. I confronted them on that fact, and they reacted absurdly. I then told them that, if they didn't like the consequences of their actions, they shouldn't behave as such.
then you objected, and here we are. So, I repeat to you, that if you don't like the consequences of being called out for twisting the facts, then fuck off.
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Geez, someone's upset. Have fun in fantasyland.
To be fair, having children in Afghanistan is barbaric.
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