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I dunno, maybe it would be better to compare North and South Korea
Yeah, let's compare one country that suffered one of the most extensive destructions in human history, killing one in five people and leveling virtually all structures with a country that received infinite propping up from the global hegemon.
South Korean dictatorship under the US Military govt ruling over them and massacring people?
Historically South Korea has been more oppressive than North, right?
They only got decent voting in the late 80's or so.
And North Korea was carpet bombed by USAmerica, attacked using biological weapons from Unit 731, subjected to brutal sanctions and routine threats.
Like, did you know about this?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/6/us-navy-seals-killed-north-korean-civilians-during-botched-mission-report
If not, why?
Both countries started at similar places in the 1950s, but picked different economic management systems right?
I guess we could sling mud can about how bad either country or its allies are, but the two countries have hugely different statistics indicating quality of life
Both countries started at similar places in the 1950s, but picked different economic management systems right?
I was not aware that South Korea was completely destroyed and a fifth of its population exterminated
Maybe you should stop reading theory and start on some history
Yeah? Which history book taught you that South Korea was completely destroyed and a fifth of its population exterminated?
How would the countries start at the same place when USAmerica carpet bombed and even allegedly used Unit 731 biological weapons against NK? And all the sanctions too.
More than the economical system, those aspects of not being bombed and sanctioned would be more influential on the growth of a country.
Also, if you are USAmerican, did you know of that news that I shared? If not, why? What would you think would be the reason?
What good are sanctions from a country across a distant ocean when you share a land border and roads with your biggest trading partner and a global hegemon.
I'm sure those NK Migs took only photos and left only memories on their flyovers during the war. Definitely no bombs
What good are sanctions from a country across a distant ocean
I don't know probably the 800 global military bases around the world, multiple client states and a sanction regime pushed through the UN amounting to an effective medieval style siege of the country.
global hegemon.
I don't think you know what this means.
I’m sure those NK Migs took only photos and left only memories on their flyovers during the war. Definitely no bombs
Definitely equivalent to the global military superpower waging a campaign of extermination that destroyed all of the farmland, and structures killing between 1 in 5 and 1 in 4 of the population and leaving the rest living in caves. You are very smart.
Ok, let's compare:
Cool, now do life expectancy
Rises sharply with communism. Sinks when communism is replaced with capitalism.
Communists win again.
What now? Wanna compare home ownership rate? Government approval rate? Number of wars mongered?
Ahhh propaganda…
It is true though, China has lifted 800 million out of poverty.
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Why do you like the nationalists that invaded Taiwan, slaughtering local resistance, and installed a military dictatorship after losing a civil war to the popularly supported communist party?
Out of extreme poverty (less than $1.90 per day). It's a good news for sure, but India did the same thing without gulags.
China has never had gulags, the GULAG administration was a part of the early-mid Soviet penal system. Further, India is absolutely not combatting poverty nearly as effectively, purchasing power in 2022 was 25 times higher than 1978 in China. Do you know what the poverty alleviation campaign looked like in practice? The building of mass infrastructure, job creation, and directly building up rural economy.
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China has prisons, what's your point? They don't have slave labor nor prison labor. The overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens support their socialist system thanks to the pro-social policies implemented and the real, material gains. Hitler was not economically efficient, he helped Nazi Germany colonize the surrounding regions, and committed the genocide of 10s of millions of people. The People's Republic of China has had steady, incredibly rapid growth consistently since it was founded in 1949. Socialism is good because it works, and works for the working classes. Nazism only benefited the ruling capitalists at the expense of mass repressions. What on Earth is this comparison?
Does your back hurt constantly moving goal posts all day ShitJustNazi user?
Lol I wish we had the poverty rate and quality of life the Chinese have. Maybe we should have thrown more corrupt politicias and businessmen in jail.
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you had to do one search to find most of what you've said is false
Underoccupied developments in China are mostly unoccupied newly built property developments in China, and frequently referred to as "ghost cities" or ghost towns. The phenomenon was claimed and recorded as early as 2009 by Al Jazeera's Melissa Chan and subsequently reported by news media over the decades.[1][2][3][4] Although a feature of discourse on the Chinese economy and urbanization in China in the 2010s, many developments that were initially criticized as "ghost cities" in China have since become occupied and are now functioning cities.[5][6][7][8]
China's government has set a goal to raise the nation's urbanization rate to around 75% by 2035, which may require the construction of an estimated 40 to 50 million new housing units to accommodate this shift.[9] Some observers argue that China's so-called "ghost cities" are better understood as ambitious urbanization projects built ahead of demand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underoccupied_developments_in_China
they don't have "ghost cities" they have something called planned economy. in a planned economy the state plans to improve the lives of the proletariat. so essentially they are creating house for people to live instead of them being used for upping some numbers on a spreadsheet.
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This is, again, not true. You have a caricature of China in your head, not an accurate picture of China. People don't live in fear, data is reliable. China has some of the best perceptions surrounding their country's democracy in the world:
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Despite your gut feelings, the data is understood to be accurate.
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I'm not really sure what you're saying, then. You made a point about people living in fear, this just generally isn't true.
You are right, enemies of the US empire are not worthy enough to be trusted with their data.
That's not what I said
They build whole cities for millions of people that are functional ghost towns.
This is the western cope for what is in practice intelligent economic planning. These "ghost towns" are regularly populated later, it's anticipated and planned growth.
They build incredible bridges in record time, while nearly 20% are closed or collapsed within 10 years
Not really true. China's infrastructure is good, the problem is the urban/rural gap due to how rapidly China is advancing.
They’re nearly as nationalist and xenophobic as most of the worst regimes in history.
Absurdly false. China is a strong internationalist country, and in government ethnic minorities are statistically better represented than Han Chinese, with strong minority protections. China raises multilateral development and cooperative agreements.
But it’s also true they’ve been killing it economically. And performed what was thought impossible over the last 40 years.
This part is definitely true, and as time goes on the cope arguments will also break down. The people who knew this was possible were the communists, both inside and outside of China. Communists are going to be the ones in power this century, and beyond.
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It’s hard to call China communist any more. They’ve embraced the strengths of communism and capitalism, even maybe socialism. Using aspects of each where they’re most effective.
I think you're misunderstanding capitalism, socialism, and communism. China is and has been under communist leadership since 1949, yet not once has their mode of production been "communist." Communism is the goal of communist parties, itself a future, global economy where all production and distribution has finally been collectivized, and is run along a common plan to fulfill everyone's needs. Between capitalism and this future state of being is socialism.
Rewinding backwards, capitalism emerged out of feudalism, and is a mode of production and distribution where private ownership is the principal aspect of the economy, and capitalists own the state. It is not an aspect of a system, but a system itself. Capitalism is really good at socializing production, bringing everyone together into one unified system, but as this goes on the contradiction between socialized production and privatized profits grows greater and greater. This results in revolutionary pressure.
Socialism, then, is a mode of production and distribution where public ownership is the principal aspect of the economy, and the working classes control the state. China has been socialist since 1949. China did not abandon socialism with the adoption of Reform and Opening Up under Deng Xiaoping, it opened up secondary and underdeveloped industry to foreign investment, while retaining public ownership of the large firms and key industries and working class control of the state. It borrowed the ability of markets to accelerate socialization for the least socialized aspects of the economy, while socializing the social surplus, rather than privatizing it.
This is all in the service of building communism, which has been laid out in a simple diagram by Cheng Enfu:
I hope that highly oversimplified synopsis can help explain how this is entirely within communist theory.
But that long term vision causes them to overlook and dismiss real short term pain and problems. Refusing to publicly acknowledge and correct their mistakes, will eventually be the weakness that brings them down in 50-150 years.
I don't believe this is accurate. China is a developing country, in developing rapidly there definitely arose new contradictions. There's now a larger capitalist class, a steeper urban/rural divide, and other problems. However, the CPC is not blind to them. State control over capital is increased as industries develop, the "birdcage" is tightened and capital's freedom to move is strictly controlled and ever-shrinking. Rural development has been a major focus, to bring the living standards in rural areas closer to that of urban living. This is all being done intelligently, in planned fashion.
There is no such thing as a society devoid of problems. What makes China (and socialist countries in general) special is the ability for humanity to take an active role in shaping the future, scientifically, without capital dominating us.
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