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[-] Ab_intra@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wait. Before they start telling what other should not do. Let's charge George W. Bush and his administration for crimes against humanity as well. Are they forgetting what happened in Iraq? He is a war criminal and should be put in jail.

[-] pozbo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

You're not wrong, but this post is about Russian war crimes and this whataboutism is a very weak defense for that.

Two nations can commit warcrimes. It isn't a contest or mutually exclusive in any way.

[-] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago

I mean, that IS the reason Pentagon refused to share their information with ICC before since that opens up US to their own crimes.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The ICC is going to need a shit ton more storage space if it's going to start collecting evidence of US crimes - I'd say about quadruple it's current capacity.

[-] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 4 points 2 years ago

On the one hand yes, on the other this is definitional whataboutism.

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

When one actively asks for punishment for one side but remains silent for the other, I say that is whataboutism by omition.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

More like hypocrisy

[-] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

“Hey, whatabout…”

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Don't forget the crimes Saddam committed back in the 80s - with US help, of course.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

For anyone who doesn't know

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/revealed-how-the-west-set-saddam-on-the-bloody-road-to-power-1258618.html

The CIA also played a central role in preparing the death lists of those who were to be eliminated after the coup by squads from the Ba'ath party. Mr Aburish says that he believes 5,000 were killed of whom he has collected the names of 600, including many doctors, lawyers, teachers and professors who formed the educated elite of Iraq.

The death lists were drawn up in CIA stations across the Middle East with the help of Iraqi exiles. In Egypt the agency was helped by an Egyptian intelligence officer who got much of his information from Saddam Hussein living in exile in Cairo. But Mr Aburish says: "The American agent who produced the longest list was William McHale, who operated under the cover of a news correspondent for the Beirut bureau of Time [magazine]."

As the CIA lists reached Baghdad the result was a massacre of extraordinary ferocity. Pregnant women and old men were killed, some tortured to death in front of their children. Mr Aburish says: "Saddam Hussein, who had rushed back to Iraq from exile in Cairo to join the victors, was personally involved in the torture of leftists in the separate detention centres for the fellaheen [peasants] and the muthaqafeen, or educated class."

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah... and that was just the US and their new bestie Saddam getting warmed up.

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