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[-] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fuck AI start with Canadian cloud and OS first ffs!

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

We need a police force in Canada that does not use Microslop and then follow the French lead. France is in the process of dropping Microslop for some linux distro in all public agencies.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

I do my best to avoid the big tech oligopoly, I did not really realize how much of my time and money was going to it until 2025 when I started getting off of it and deeper into the home labing stuff.

[-] non_burglar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, it's been a journey for sure. I think I started divesting myself from google in 2015 when it made a deal with us military.

Now I have my own calendar, contacts, maps & GPS, alternate email, YouTube alternatives, hosting my own music, etc etc.

It's a lot of work. A lot. I jump through hoops to do stuff that is convenient for most.

However, when I hear about the latest misuse of private data, it feels worth the effort. If infrastructure failed in an apocalypse, I'd have my opus music library.

Ultimately, my data remaining in my control is my top priority. MY DATA, MY RULES.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I still watch youtube because there is not really a gooder option, but I have all the Google ads and tracking stripped away.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

If I could do anything. I would start in 1997 when I first logged into the internet.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 3 days ago

Will Canada finally get its ass out of the US pan and choose Linux?

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Unlikely. Compute Canada was supposed to establish data servers for federally funded research...in 2009. They even got a rule enacted that if a research program had a server funded, it would be taken by Compute Canada.

Another agency in Ottawa full of 200 wankers no one would miss if fired.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

And also build some redundant infrastructure so in the event of a US turning hostile (which it is). The post-WW2 alliance and 5-eyes network was made under the assumption that while Americans can be positively nuts, they won't do shit like this.

But under Trump they proved they can. While Trump's brain is mush, the movement won't stop with him. The next president might be worse.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Funny story about how France has done it with their public services. The Police where frustrated with the upgrade to XP, so they got a distro developed for them and went Linux. After a Microslop representative told France that their data was not safe from the US CLOUD act, they set a deadline for all public services to switch over to this distro. Not sure if the deadline has passed but fairly sure it is coming up if it hasn’t yet.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I'm Canadian. I've got some old disc drives and usb sticks in the back of my closet that I'm not using anymore. I will contribute them to Canada so we can store our own data in our own data silos. BOOM! Tech problem solved! /s

[-] GodofLies@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

Canada - especially the federal government - is balls deep in with Microslop. Policy makers are 100% being lobbied + no idea how to even navigate the clusterfuck of a tech stack that's been built up over the decades.

But hey they going to keep mandating everyone to go back into the office and use Microslop Teams when US tech companies have already publicly said they cannot guarantee that Canadian data doesn't get router through US servers. cue applause /s

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Even if the data stays in Canada on Canadian servers using Microslop systems the US can still get it because of the US CLOUD act.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

It's going to take years (and truckloads of money) to build domestic capacity to rival what the US companies currently have. And then you will have to pay that money back with a much smaller total potential customer base, while competing against established international competitors with deeper pockets.

It's not impossible, and some players will absolutely be able to chip away at it, but it's not going to be as easy or fast as people what it to be.

We don't have to sell EXCLUSIVELY to a Canadian market. We can sell to other countries.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Sure, we can work with some other countries, but the reasons we want a "made in Canada" solution are the same reasons other countries want their own locally controlled data infrastructure.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Parts of the EU are doing it.

[-] AGM@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Canada's small population to serve inference to is an advantage to some extent in such a capex heavy space, but the money being committed federally is pretty tiny. I look at $3.3 billion committed for AI over 5 years when compared with $60B for new subs, $3B for Arctic patrol ships, and up to $27B on F-35s if we go through with that order and don't think we're being serious about sovereign AI at all. We don't have to be an OpenAI spending half a trillion on data centers for training and inference to reach a market of a billion+ people, but $3.3B over 5 years is not being serious about carving out our own independence from hyperscalers.

[-] AGM@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

I'm waiting to see what comes as a final version of the national AI strategy, but what my feeling for a while is that what we're seeing with AI in Canada is very reminiscent of what we've seen in O&G, but even more lopsided. Lots of US ownership, raw material (both mineral and data) coming from Canada but with value-added processes owned by US companies, revenue that will flow south, and lock-in to their systems.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

We have zero PhDs in Parliament, 7% STEM degrees. No one understands AI so any strategy will be written by lobbyists.

[-] AGM@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

We don't have them in parliament, but we do have them. I'm not a big fan of Evan Solomon as the minister of AI, but the AI advisory council has some people who are very knowledgeable and have been deep in the AI space for years. So, there is ready access to great knowledge and intelligence. That said, Solomon's approach is very market-driven and focused on entrepreneurship and business growth, and that's no-doubt why he's in the roll. The approach from the top of government down has been to go market-driven.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Hopefully that will not happen this time around, oh who am I kidding it is going to happen.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago

regardless of any of this, we do not need hyperscale AI data centres for any reason whatsoever, fucking hell

Burn it down and rebuild it.

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