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The second red dawn movie shows a ridiculous and unlikely scenario where the DPRK invades America, but ironically if you reverse the roles and have it be that America invades the DPRK and the perspective is from North Korean students (who in this case would actually have military training from mandatory military service, so would actually have a reasonable reason why they can fight), it would be far closer to a possible reality (which thankfully the DPRK made moot since they actually have what it takes to not be invaded now).

You have movies where American soldiers are shown in these difficult and dangerous situations fighting 'insurgents', but if you reversed it and showed the average people who pick up weapons and fight back, THEY'RE the ones who actually have a struggle; these freedom fighters can't just call in air support, they don't have access to the latest weaponry, their enemies DO have air support, their families are literally on the line or even dead at this point; doing a movie from their perspective makes INFINITELY more sense, and it feels like such an easy idea to make a movie of, but obviously studios don't want to make that movie because they know NO ONE will be on their side, not even supposedly anti-war libs (similar to how when you make a meme about a VC or NVA soldier talking about taking out invading troops, you have 'all war bad' people coming in and crying about it, even though they keep quiet when someone posts pics or vids from the opposite perspective).

So many movies about America getting invaded by Aliens because realistically no one's going to actually try to invade America, whereas the opposite, BEING invaded by America, is actually a very possible thing for countries in the global South; the horrors of civilians being massacred? Your own neighbors and such? A reality people being invaded in the global South have to put up with.

I recall a novel Ben Shapiro wrote where he had terrorists show up and take a school hostage, whereas right now, in reality, America literally struck a girls' school and killed at least 160 girls, and Israel has been striking schools and universities. There were military people making comments about how realistic Ben's book was, which aside from being delusional, tells me these people think this kind of story is realistic because it's exactly the kind of thing they would do (every accusation is projection, etc).

You make ONE movie where the roles are reversed, where it's Iraqi freedom fighters fighting back, and the side characters are literally family, friends, neighbors, who will die and be tortured, and EVERYONE will be able to naturally feel how realistic this movie is because it's obvious on its face how realistic it is, and yet the media will jump down your throat about it.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 11 hours ago

China needs to get on this shit really, and videogames. After school/college is over the westerner's only education comes from entertainment media, if they take over these spaces producing genuinely good high quality things they can rewrite history in most people's minds to the correct outcome. If hollywood could make the French believe the US was more important than the USSR it can happen the other way around as well, it just needs the productive forces to be set in motion to do it properly.

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 12 points 10 hours ago

There are some good North Vietnamese movies out there. I liked The Little Girl of Hanoi and Mrs. Tư Hậu. They aren't especially well-kept and the subtitle quality is pretty bad, at least in the versions I saw, but they're worth a look. When the Tenth Month Comes is later (after reunification), and is supposed to be great, but I haven't seen that one yet.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 21 points 12 hours ago

You make ONE movie where the roles are reversed, where it's Iraqi freedom fighters fighting back, and the side characters are literally family, friends, neighbors, who will die and be tortured, and EVERYONE will be able to naturally feel how realistic this movie is because it's obvious on its face how realistic it is, and yet the media will jump down your throat about it.

Literally why Lucas made Star Wars a "scifi" film. There's this thing I heard about in relation to how John Carpenter was able to get They Live made, about how due to the way the Hollywood studio system works making a film that critiques the US/status quo has to be done via what was labelled "trojan cinema". The creators have to sneak in this critique under the cover of some contrivance. This is the essence of allegory in scifi, fantasy, etc.

This doesn't seem to work very well as most US movie watchers have terrible media literacy unfortunately. Maybe just doing it as you suggest without contrivance muddying the waters is the better approach. I think this works pretty well with films that are retelling historical events, but it probably won't get funded/distributed if it was done in a realistic but fictional story.

The amerikkka cinema mind can handle a "we used to be so bad" story, but something blatantly using the US as the evil empire in a realistic, contemporary but fictional setting is too triggering of cognitive dissonance. I feel like that there could be a good sized audience for it now, but the gatekeepers of film making in amerikkka are unwilling to take that chance.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 9 points 9 hours ago

James Cameron is making a whole series "we will be so bad in the future too" so there's definitely appetite.

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