Mastercard demands US cannabis shops stop accepting debit cards : worldnews

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 89 points 1 year ago

They are a middle man between my bank and the store in purchasing from, nothing more. They shouldn't stop anything unless it's theft.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I get your sentiment, this announcement comes months before GOP primaries start. As a business, you don’t want to be on the chopping block when the extremists accuse you of drug peddling. A Trump, DeSantis, or similar presidency won’t care about facts.

Edit: if this has 5 downvotes 2 minutes after I comment, it’s my stalker. Idk what to do about it either

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Make a new account??

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If it continues, I will. Cyberstalking is seriously creepy

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Literally this, nobody really cares about your "online persona". If i haven't added you on discord or something you're just a star her to me IDC what your Lemmy account is

[-] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's your money until ~~banks~~ financial institutions tell you it's not.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

MasterCard isn't a bank.

[-] throwaway@monero.town 8 points 1 year ago

This is good for Monero.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yes I’m sure the states allowing cannabis sales would love for dispensaries to start taking untraceable money. That ought to be super easy to figure out on their AML reporting

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I'm all for making cash great again. Better than it getting accepted in less and less places. I hope they will also do the same for other, more popular things.

[+] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org -29 points 1 year ago

Not surprising. You can’t expect a company like Mastercard to open themselves up to that kind of liability.

[-] rubythulhu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 1 year ago

What liability? These are in government-licensed facilities regulated by the same government institutions which regulate the sale of alcohol, which require you, just like a bar or liquor store do, to verify your identity and that you are an adult with a government-issued ID, where all products are subject to government testing and taxation.

This isn’t about liability, it’s about outdated federal regulations which remain in place only because alcohol producers continue to pay off / “donate to” congresspeople to prevent a different inebriant, consumption and usage of which is demonstrably safer for both the direct consumer and the general public, from affecting alcohol profits.

[-] Spacemanspliff@midwest.social 34 points 1 year ago

it’s about outdated federal regulations

That's the liability, the feds can theoretically go after it still even if the state has allowed it.

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Not sure why everyone is down-voting me to hell. I didn't say I like it, but it is a liability.

[-] Spacemanspliff@midwest.social -2 points 1 year ago

Because you sound like you're arguing that it's not a liability while making the point of why it's a liability.

Also you have 3 down votes. Chill.

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

41 downvotes. I am arguing that it is a liability. What have I said that would suggest it isn’t?

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mastercard is a several hundred billion dollar company.

They're actually literally the kind of institution that should be willing to open themselves up to liability to fight for citizens rights, instead of always taking a hard-line against citizens at the behest of the Federal government. They absolutely have the money to fight such a thing in court, if the Federal government cracked down on them... and to remind you.... The Fed's haven't done that. I would say they had a leg to stand on vis a vis liability if the Federal government had made an example of them in the past nearly 30 years since medical marijuana was first legalized in California in 1996.

This is just puritan bullshit with a hand-wavey excuse as to why.

They have the money to fight it and easily win, if they cared. They don't. It's not about liability. The Federal government has a long history of not bringing a case unless they're absolutely going to win it, they don't waste the money. They haven't been liable yet in decades, so why now?

Why now is an exercise in puritan control. Just like these chucklefucks do to sex workers in the porn industry.

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Fighting it isn't profitable for them.

So they don't bother.

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure Mastercard can easily win a suit by the DOJ over enabling Schedule I drug transactions.

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's not like the DOJ would put anyone in jail. They would get fined and then move on with their fucking day.

[-] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

They could lose millions and third party payment processors would potentially cut ties with them. It could literally tank their entire business. Don't get me wrong. I wish weed was legal and I also wish there wasn't financial pressure from banks and lending institutions to blackball the weed industry, but if there is any industry that is going to stick strictly to federal law, it's the financial sector. I don't think they have anything against weed, I think they have something against loosing millions of dollars.

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you really overestimate how hard the US government is willing to go against rich private corporations, no matter what they do.

Norfolk Southern got complete control of the situation when they derailed a train with toxic chemicals in a small Ohio town. Their losses have not been catastrophic to the company, they're still chugging along.

And they poisoned an entire town of people! Feds slapped em on the wrist and moved on.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Corporations don’t give a shit about citizens rights or improving the lives of citizens, they only care about ever increasing profits to the exclusion of all else

[+] fictitiousexistence@lemmy.ml -77 points 1 year ago

Druggies will be druggies

[-] coaxil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

What do you mean by this?

[-] Ringmasterincestuous@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago

Not OP but I’m pretty sure it was suggesting that BBC News and Mastercard are both crackhead institutions 😏

[-] fictitiousexistence@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The weed bullshit in this world is overblown.

Every person I've ever know who uses weed has been a classic druggie.

And every person I've met with a "medical" marijuanna card are druggies.

Druggies are pathetic losers especially weed lovers. Yes weed has its place medically in some situations however, that's not the reality of most everyone going in a weed shop.

And the folks using anxiety as a reason to use weed daily are the biggest piece of shit the world has known.

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