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Westfield is but one example of an issue all school districts are grappling with as the omnipresence of technology — including artificial intelligence — impacts students' lives, the district's superintendent Raymond González said in a statement.

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[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago

Regulation isn't going to stop this from happening, especially since there's a company who is going to build fleets of AI processing barges to float in international waters to bypass this exact type of regulation.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 21 points 2 years ago

Not to mention it's already quite easy to run a local generative AI on a modest gaming PC, and it's only going to get easier.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

barges to float in international waters

International waters don't bring you money.

Regulation needs to grab them by the money. When making these pics is a crime and that company is aiding to a crime, then an authority can take away all their money or even forbid them business at all. Then they are going to start to think.

But it needs legislation that really means it, and leaves no loopholes.

[-] onion@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

The loopholes are other countries

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You seem to forget that VPNs and crypto exist, so no country can stop it from happening.

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Is there really or is that an idea? That sounds terrifying if so.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

And then that fleet will sell access to children? Isn’t that a bit disconnected from the specifics of the topic?

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 54 points 2 years ago

I feel like they said the same thing about Photoshop.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Photoshop was always something that required skill, and a computer to run it, and a copy of a paid program.

This stuff does not need a lot of those hurdles. It’s all about ease and how it’s usable on your pocket computer that you and all your classmates have with you all the time.

Your thought is still a fair one to have. But there are big differences between what was and this new stuff. In the past you woulda needed a ton more skill and the alignment of a bunch of things to casually generate fake nudes like the ones covered by this article.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 30 points 2 years ago

and a copy of a paid program.

I pirated photoshop when I was 13

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sweet. Me too. In the 90s. This is partially where I draw my understanding of the situation from.

Specifically:

  • The idea that piracy of professional software isn’t as casual as phone apps or web apps.
  • The fact that it’s paid software that is professional software with a learning curve.
[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

What is warez?

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

You need a hell of a lot more computer power to run a llm than you do photoshop.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

While true, you can generate AI images with a potato, it just takes longer. For my setup, stable diffusion on my RTX 3060 generates the basic image in around 10 seconds while running on CPU only takes around five minutes, but the result is exactly the same.

[-] rar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago

Do the files exactly match to their hashes? I wonder if there's a fundamental difference generated by using different hardwares.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago

AI always generate different outputs for the same input (AI appears to be non-deterministic) so it would be impossible to confirm that exactly.

But I suppose what they mean is they appear to be of the same quality. Taking a longer time does not appear to decrease the quality of the output.

I suppose you could give an AI the same input resetting it after each input and then use statistical models to identify common traits. Then do the same thing on different hardware and run the same statistical analysis and see if there is a difference between group A in group B but as far as I'm aware no one has done this.

In theory hardware shouldn't matter, it's all mathematics basically and one plus one is always equal two, so there shouldn't be any fluctuations.

[-] rar@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I suppose given equal input (model, keyword, seed, etc.) two Stable Diffusion installs should output same images; what I am curious about is whether the hardware configuration (e.g. gpu manufacturers) could result in traceable variations. As abuse of this tech gains prominence, tracing back the producer of a certain synthetic media by the specific hardware combination could become a thing.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

While it could work like bullet forensics, where given access to the gun you can shoot it and compare it to the original bullet, there is no way to look at a generated image and figure out exactly what made it as there are simply way too many variables and random influences. Well, unless the creator is dumb enough to keep the metadata enabled, by default automatic1111 stable diffusion embeds all of it in the file itself as a png comment thingy.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I assume these models are being run on servers.

[-] theterrasque@infosec.pub 7 points 2 years ago

Which server run model allows pornography of this type?

[-] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 4 points 2 years ago

Or unregulated canvas sales and (gasp) artists who paint for money.

[-] theterrasque@infosec.pub 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"knife stabbings done with [new alloy] knives shows that [new alloy] is a major threat to society, spokesman says, and remind people to pretend that knife stabbings is a completely new thing that didn't exist before"

[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago

Deepfakes are nothing new but the ease of access to said tools these days and its popularity are definitely something to be concerned about. Don't downplay it.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Harassment is wrong whether you're doing it with Stable Diffusion or passing notes with rude cartoons.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The question that this probably comes down to is: "is this a harassment problem or an AI problem?"

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Imagine if word processors or email clients refused to let you write malicious or hostile messages. I don't think that would be an improvement.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

Privacy is dead. Society just hasn't realized it yet.

[-] jack@monero.town -1 points 2 years ago

Information wants to be free

[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Look that's nice and all, but it's not going away and it's only going to get worse. The age of fake AI porn is only beginning. Full-on porn videos where you can take a couple of photos of someone and the AI will build a model of the person and insert them into the porn video is coming. Whether this is done for laughs, from embarrassment, or because it's sexy doesn't matter.

This genie is not going back in the bottle. This is only the tip of the iceberg. We are moving towards an age where you will be able to have virtual sex with anyone you want as long as you have a picture or video of them. VR sex and a porn game that can map someone into a character isn't that far away. It really doesn't harm anyone if we quit being such prudes.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It'll end up just being an extension of the "don't tell someone randomly that you have fantasies about them". You keep your AI masturbation habits between you, the AI, and the tech companies and government agencies spying on your masturbation habits.

[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I completely agree.

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