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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Zansacu@lemmy.world to c/warframe@dormi.zone

I haven't been to Reddit for a few days, I've also completely deleted my data and my profile from Reddit, and I don't want to return.

Are we here to stay? Are you moving back to the Warframe subreddit? Are we moving elsewhere, like the official forum, for example?

Personally, I like Lemmy although I miss being able to use GIFs and directly upload videos, so I'm happy if we decide to stay here.

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[-] thon@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I don't really use reddit a ton anymore but tbh I don't think I'll be staying here either.

I hated the reddit redesign on desktop because it did some annoying things like waste a ton of space, and sadly Lemmy on desktop has similar usability issues to new.reddit in that regard. I could fix it with userstyles (like I could new reddit), but I'd much rather not have to. These are things that can be fixed dev-side too, but until that happens I really just don't like using the default lemmy experience.

Also I use iOS and the iOS app selection for Lemmy is severely lacking, the app that does exist (Mlem) does not have great usability imo

[-] dantheman34@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Before the move some posts got thousands of up votes. After the move the upvotes are in the low double digits. Most don't care, that's why they didn't come over

[-] ATox@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago

This website is nothing when you look at the massive amount of data and information that is being held at ransom and only affects the community because of this protest.

[-] Rylatar@dormi.zone 0 points 1 year ago

Wiki still exists plus if you search for a thread via Google, you can always copy the thread link and try using Wayback Machine. (I’ve used that on a very small thread today and it worked)

[-] ATox@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Or. And hear me out. They stop this stupid blackout and I don't need a "way back machine" and can just click. DE used the reddit and this website only stands to destroy the community. People aren't coming here.

[-] lilplague7@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit is hopeless as long as spez is in the seat,

[-] RedForFred@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Here to stay, personally. Reddit seemed to mostly be a cesspool of negativity so it was never fun to engage. I think there is some information on the subreddit that might be useful, but the majority of information can be found on the forums or wiki. I can agree that read only would be a decent compromise

[-] pulsar@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I only wish they made the threads at least a read-only permission

As a returning player Reddit threads/comments are the ones that helped me most cause most YT vid sucks due to intros and long vids that could be answered shortly. I was sad when I saved some threads that I was reading before the blackout and I cant read the guides and search for answers again so pretty much stopped doing things towards my goals for now

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm cool with staying here. It's an adjustment, but I feel it's worthwhile since I'm pretty sure Reddit isn't gonna budge.

[-] o0zeroh0o@dormi.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a complete waste of time. I signed up just to complain about it. I program / integrate API's for a living. There's tonnes of websites that don't have free api access. Reddit isn't obligated to provide any API, and the fact it's taking it away isn't a good enough reason for all these mods to throw their toys out of the cot. Furthermore, it's not the mods that will suffer for their decisions because they still have access to these private subreddits, it's the users - most of whom have nothing to do with third party reddit apps or reddit apis and couldn't care less.

Users who access reddit through a third party free API app make $0 for reddit. The big one being apollo, which likely would have been costing reddit a shit tonne in server fees and upkeep. So Reddit's decision to change their API makes complete sense... Imagine if someone moved into your house, ate your food, paid no rent and then when you kicked them out people started protesting you for doing so. Whether users don't visit reddit or they visit it through a third party app - the outcome for reddit is the same. $0 - great fuck all. That's why these subreddits going private are going to do jack shit.

And to those users who think you care because you've been told you should (and because you love a good protest) ask yourself how this REALLY effects you. If you use a third party app, you'll instead have to use a slightly different looking one. And BONUS you'll be supporting the company that has actually made all those subreddits possible. I understand this is going to get downvoted to shit (if it can, idk how this stupid site works) because people THINK they care at the moment. But literally give it 2 weeks, everybody will realize the changes don't mean shit to them personally, and they'll stop giving a fuck.

My last complaint is just how shortsighted / selfish this is on the part of the people incharge here. Nobody is here for you. Nobody is here for your opinions on how reddit should run it's business. Nobody gives 2 shits about how you feel the community should come together. We care about discussing shit with a large amount of actual war frame players, and then finding that information at a later date. And by doing this protest you're removing both of those conditions, no large amount of players, no archive of knowledge. The next warframe subreddit that gains ANY traction is where 95% of players are going to go and you'll be left here with some opinions that nobody cares about.

[-] WarfarmerMcDonald@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit is getting free labor, probably tens of thousands of hours of it, from their moderators. The moderators need the API to manage the subreddits. It'st that simple.

[-] Dystopia@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The main complaints wasn't that the API was going to be paid but how much more it cost to use the API vs other APIs like Imgur's.

There were devs that had been trying to contact support for +3 months to find out about pricing and Reddit couldn't bother giving them a response notifying them about the new pricing for their API.

Then there was the AMA about how the new API was going to work where nothing was answered. I think somone even linked to their API "documentation" and it was just it is just a waitlist, even though it is going live at the end of the month.

*There was also the response about how the reddit app lacks accessability, and it seemed more like they were scrambling to put something together.

I don't believe I read anything about bots having access to the NSFW part of Reddit, so some automated mod tools aren't going to work there anymore. People will probably notice an increase in onlyfans (or similar type of site) spam bots. Mods of those subs could probably write a bot that scrapes to remove those posts, but I'm pretty sure scraping is against Reddits TOS, and could just get the bot banned.

Other helpful bots that are community orientation are dead as far as I know, like savevideo/remindme.

https://youtu.be/99cVnYY9Iqs one reason why new Reddit/app is terrible, especially for anyone dealing with data caps.

**They also forced r/piracy to be public again, considering that they want to force questionable content like that to be public, they probably aren't going to bother doing a half decent job replacing mods when forcing other subs to go public.

[-] xuerian@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm a developer too.

I pay for my API usage, as I should.

It's priced reasonably, and the companies selling me that usage don't spread lies about me in private and in public.

I'm also a very long term Reddit user, and I'm completely aware of why Reddit exists. It's us. It's the content we make. It's the time we take to moderate our communities. We made this content before, we put it in usenet and irc and forums. We can put it back there.

[-] o0zeroh0o@dormi.zone 0 points 1 year ago

Thats fine, go free and make content in places where people aren't. It's working great for the 100s of dead youtube and twitch clones.

If you want to leave then leave. You're entirely able to do that. The problem is that if you want to stay, you now can't. I have no dog in this fight, I couldn't care less, yet my mind has been made up for me against my will by people who probably also have no dog in this fight but think they're doing the right thing

[-] xuerian@dormi.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have the perfect opportunity to make a sub and run it. It should fill up quickly with the vast majority of users like you! Everyone wins. This would not be the first time a secondary sub has popped up to resolve disagreements with a previous mod team.

Use an extension that redirects you to archives of posts if you want to see old posts.

Or just wait until Reddit shows their full colors and forces all protesting subs to open.

[-] o0zeroh0o@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago
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