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Ohio voters just took firm positions on abortion and reproductive rights and adult-use recreational marijuana Tuesday, but gerrymandered Ohio lawmakers are already planning to flout, ignore, challenge, and abuse the voters’ wishes. This is what gerrymandering brings. This is why it’s a fundamental poison in the lifeblood of our republic.

Mere hours after Ohio voters passed the Issue 1 reproductive rights amendment with 56.62%, according to unofficial results, and the Issue 2 recreational marijuana law with 57% (both getting nearly 2.2 million votes), Ohio Republican legislative leaders signaled they would not respect the will of the people.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 107 points 10 months ago

Maybe this way the people learn that Republicans cannot be trusted with democratic decisions.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

Maybe this way the people learn that Republicans cannot be trusted.

FTFY.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago

When I lived in Arizona, I tried my best to inform people EVERY TIME the state Republicans fought back against voter initiatives (which was nearly every time).

They don't care. Arizonans even voted recently to make voter initiatives harder to pass

https://www.azcentral.com/elections/results/2022-11-08/state/arizona/

But at least they (barely) voted against the other bill Republicans put on the ballot: That their government be allowed to alter passed voter initiatives.

Fuck Republicans

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago

Expecting republican voters to learn… I admire your optimism.

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[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Maybe this way the people learn

Hey, hope springs eternal, but if we look at past experience and try to guess at what the future will hold...

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 98 points 10 months ago

Like when the people of Florida clearly voted to restore voting rights to people who completed their time in the justice system, and Florida Republicans just said Nah. Fuck the Republicans.

[-] negativenull@lemm.ee 61 points 10 months ago

Or when Utah voted to legalize Marijuana (against the Mormon Church's wishes) and the Utah Republicans just said Nah.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 71 points 10 months ago
[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Only if we let them. We all gotta vote or they'll fascism all over the place.

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I’m getting genuinely nervous that voting is not going to stop this one. With them lying and switching parties after being voted in, to the judicial system being completely corrupt and stacked, our window is closing fast. It needs to be legal to punch fascist in the face. Intolerance cannot be tolerated.

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

They want you to feel like it's inevitable that they'll win. It isn't!

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

No, I feel it’s inevitable that I will be in the middle of a civil war to forcibly push these fascist from our government. I will vote until I have to enact my second amendment rights.

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[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Isn't this literally a post about how people voted and its going to be ignored anyway?

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[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Don't stop at voting. Volunteer to encourage others to vote. Get more involved in local politics. Run for local office.

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I don't not have the time to run but I know my city council woman and I've had her sign in my yard twice now. As well as the school board members. They all won reelection this past Tuesday too. I've been thinking about becoming a precinct captain but I'm already kind of stretched thin.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago
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[-] wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz 62 points 10 months ago

I genuinely don't understand how a human could see what they do and think "oh yeah these guys are good, fuck those assholes that care about basic human rights"

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

For some if it "owns the libs" it's good. Doesn't matter if it erodes democracy or not.

[-] Hairyblue@kbin.social 36 points 10 months ago

It's this. Many Republicans lack the ability of empathy for other people- especially for people different than them. They can not see things from both sides. They may wonder what happen to democracy when it is gone and be dumfounded when it is their rights being taken away.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Maybe they don't see people unlike them as fully human.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ohio Republican legislative leaders signaled they would not respect the will of the people.

Have they ever?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

When the people voted for them, sure

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Republicans want to rule, not represent

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

They never really stopped. Before this was their previous attempt, the August election's Issue 1 in which they tried to suppress voter initiatives to amend the Constitution. Anybody that supports Republicans at this point is supporting fascism. There's not really "the lesser of two evils" in most elections now, it's the Evil party that is doing just about everything they can against America & the public, and then there's everyone else.

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

It's so important to be registered to vote and to vote in presidential, midterm, and off year elections. It's important to vote at the national, state, and local levels.

[-] Plavatos@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Fun fact, that special election in August broke their own rules as signed in HB 458. Aug special elections were removed unless to draw resolutions on fiscal emergencies (see sec 3501.022-A).

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 48 points 10 months ago

Or when Florida passed an anti gerrymandering law and the governor just ignored the state Congress and resubmitted the illegal maps

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Oh did Florida also do it? Ohio’s illegal maps were struck down but they just sent the same ones until time ran out

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 11 points 10 months ago

Yep, for a while now actually. DeSantis just kind of... Ignored the map drawn according to the law and resubmitted the old one. And the sunshine law that requires everything that passes over a public officials desk to be made public, including meeting records and emails

I thought calling Republicans fascist was a little hyperbolic, or at least premature... But then I saw DeSantis blatantly ignore the law, fire elected officials for dutifully fulfilling campaign promises (specifically, by adopting a rehabilitation first stance on crime, which was showing great results), form an extra legal panel to push "anti woke" policies in schools, and gave police the right to take children they suspect might be brought out of state for gender affirming care (obviously not cis gender affirming care like prosthetic boots for men insecure about their height while running for president). Then there's the book burnings, unconstituional laws, attempting to impose government censorship on Disney, and of course multiple fun flavors of voter suppression

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

In all fairness his drag queen high heel boots made him to tall to read the law. He's such a Bitchy queen.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

I just want the rest of the country to understand how little of a say we have in our government in Ohio. They’re comfortable doing this with these margins because of how gerrymandered we are. Illegally so, but they just kept submitting the same map until the timer ran out

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Disenfranchise voters with this one weird trick!

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah frankly I’m angry that they weren’t held in contempt of court for the first attempt at that. That’s not a situation where any bullshit should be allowed. We were gerrymandered so hard we did a ballot initiative to ban gerrymandering specifically in the way that prevents legislature from changing or overturning it and the Republican state Supreme Court said it was blatantly illegal. And these absolute dictator wannabes just sent the same one. A clear statement of “we do not respect democracy and we will not accept the will of our state population.” No, that’s not a situation that gets a warning. That needs a “if you continue to play stupid games we will stop you”

That or send a third party to create a fair map and decide that the legislature has abdicated their right to create their map

[-] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago

I hope they try! The GOPs hard stance on this just keeps helping Dems at every turn. They’re digging their own graves

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

It's my hope that stories like this will motivate people to just vote them out.

[-] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I lean right on most things, but do support both of these measures. I also support removing lawmakers that do not adhere to the will of the people they were elected to represent. Politicians need to be reminded they work for US, and need to be reminded they should fear the voting public.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

There's a thirsty tree in Ohio.

[-] kaibae@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Sounds like it’s past time for that general strike

[-] Kentifer@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Just as soon as someone does all of the necessary planning. Strikes go on for a long time. There needs to be infrastructure in place for helping people meet their needs during a strike. That's one thing that unions are able to help with. Untill that infrastructure is in place, a general strike will never succeed because people will need money to food, medication, sanitary products, etc.

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[-] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

As someone not from US, and generally interested in the specifics of gerrymandering, can someone share a link for the extent of gerrymandering in Ohio.

[-] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I like to use the Princeton website that tracks and grades how badly a state has been gerrymandered:

https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/

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