There's pretty good reason to avoid Motorola. It's just not great value. Getting a 6th gen Pixel a-series will give you a device with a 5-year software lifespan. Moto on the other hand abandons their devices as soon as they can. The Pixel might not be the same price but when on sale it could be pretty close. I used to recommend Moto to people who couldn't or didn't want to spend much on a smartphone. These days I tell them to find a cheap Pixel a-series instead.

Because Mororola is owned by Lenovo now, and lots of people dislike Lenovo. Their questionable ethics aside, Motorola phones have now become very average, a shadow of what the phones used to be like back in their heyday. Remember the revolutionary Moto X? With the custom voice processor and voice actions that didn't drain battery, that satisfying dimple at the back, the soft-touch customisable body, the form factor which was neither too big nor too small, the OS - it was all perfect. But ever since Lenovo took over, the phones have become very unremarkable.

As for update speed - sure, not everyone cares, but r/c Android does, because most of us are techies and we care about this stuff. Trying to claim that updates aren't important in these circles will only get pitchforks aimed at you.

Pixel As in general seem to have better rom support, for example, Pixel 3a is one of the few devices with all ubuntu touch features working, while pixel 3 isnt even supported

Pixel 5A, headphone jack and graphene os. Never seen anyone else using it, but it's a trooper.

Will banking apps run without complaint?

In Canada I've seen a massive uptick in seeing Pixel's in public in the last year or two

Wow, i wasn't aware of this phone until I saw this comment. It reminds me of the Galaxy S5 active.

I've been rocking it for a month or 2 now and it is the best! I'm able to watch YouTube in bed, while charging, with wired earbuds. On a trip I was able to swap out the battery instead of recharging.

It is also SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the xcover pro and has way better battery life. A world of a difference.

What turns people off is the two year updates, so unless you plan on switching to custom roms, its security lifetime is limited.

I was looking for this. once I went to zenfone, I never looked back. superb build quality, an insane amount of resources built in, and lineageOS or /e/ ready! hands down, best prones ever!

I've never used a Zenfone but a friend of mine is rocking a ROG phone 2. It's the only phone I've ever seen with a display better than Samsungs. It's also very fast and the stereo speakers are insanely good. I really wish to buy an Asus sometime but for now my Motorola Edge 20 Pro is too good to be replaced anytime soon.

Sadly the Pixel 3 is no longer getting security updates. Which custom ROMs mitigate a bit. But graphene OS has stopped supporting it. So if you're very security sensitive you probably want to stick with a phone that's still getting updates. That being said I love my Pixel 3A. Just sad it's not " safe anymore "

The e-waste treadmill of phones is really disappointing. I would love for a legislator to come along perhaps the EU, and say if you stop releasing security updates you must open source the drivers. So the community can take over