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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 48 points 1 year ago

scary when police think they have a 'marketing' problem.. no, thats a 'do your fucking job without being a terrible human being' problem

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Because there's never a negative consequence...

If the process even starts, cops nationwide stop doing their job completely.

Imagine if charging a fireman for arson meant firemen stopped responding to calls.

Or if a single malpractice suit stopped doctors from treating patients.

Cops are essentially a gang, they've been acting like it for decades now. The only time a cop will admit another cop did something wrong, is if that first cop was a whistleblower. Anything except speaking out against cops and they all close ranks to protect the "bad apple".

Nothing to add except to also point out that even where there are consequences, these are usually settlements paid by taxpayers. No incentive to change behavior when there's no impact even at the departmental level.

Example: NYPD “Transparency” Site Leaves Out Misconduct Lawsuits Settled for Millions

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Which is why all cops are bad. Don’t care there are no good ones. If they do nothing they’re just as bad.

[-] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Because the justice system lets them get away with it...

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 1 year ago

no mention in this article, but in the US the district attorneys are just as complicit. they all have to 'work together', and boy do they.

[-] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This has nothing to do with the country in question, this is a global problem. I'd say we need independent oversight boards staffed by random citizens (similar to jury duty) in all countries. (imho)

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Because we, the police, and everyone else confuse the ideas of the Justice System and the Legal System.

One is an ideal to try to create equality in society and the other is to maintain a system of power and control.

It makes you wonder and look at the history of why we have police in the first place. They aren't there to serve or protect people, they are there to enforce laws which were prominently created to protect wealth and property.

Even the term 'to protect and to serve' is a marketing term created by the Los Angeles police in the 60s to deal with a terrible image they had at the time of normalized police brutality back then.

The oath that new police officers take is even suspect, in my province in Ontario in Canada where this is used:

I solemnly swear (affirm) that I will be loyal to Canada, and that I will uphold the Constitution of Canada and that I will, to the best of my ability, preserve the peace, prevent offences and discharge my other duties as (insert name of office) faithfully, impartially and according to law.

The statement doesn't say how they will perform these duties..... it can just as easily be used to justify the use of force at a protest against an unpopular government, business or corporation. It also just states that they are meant to uphold laws, it doesn't say they'll be nice about it.

It gives you a perspective on the image that they are just LAW ENFORCEMENT, not necessarily a group that is meant to be nice to people, especially when those people disagree with society or the government.

[-] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You are absolutely correct!

one only has to look at how the police came about roughly 200 years ago... upperclass brats patrouling the ports to prevent the common rabble like you and myself from stealing crates off of ships and warehouses.

[-] pbjamm@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago

Because it makes their job easier and there are no consequences for getting caught. It will continue until this changes.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

"Good cops" lie because they think it makes them good cops, keeping the scum off the streets who would otherwise go free on lack of evidence and other "technicalities".

[-] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Fuck the police. Yes your grandpappy too.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago
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