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So that's why Google wants you to use Chrome on your iPhone so badly::Sundar Pichai's Google pays Tim Cook's Apple a whopping 36% of search revenue it gets when people use Safari — ouch.

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[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 1 year ago

Google and Apple are both trash tier companies with zero respect for the human or their privacy.

And Samsung somehow manages to be worse than both of them.

[-] rob299@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I don't get it. what did Samsung do that's so much worse then degrading the internet search resualts?

[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 1 year ago

Genuinely not sure where to even begin with this.

I would recommend looking at Samsung history as a company, from having the largest private militarized navy at one point to active influence on various countries politicians to allow them to continue to live like kings.

For a more thorough overview I would recommend https://wri-irg.org/en/story/2011/war-profiteer-month-samsung it's a bit aged but covers a lot, would recommend following up on more recent shenanigans with the search terms "samsung human testing, samsung war technology division influence on global politics, samsung militarized private navy, Samsung aircraft carrier, Samsung support of genocide, Samsung and African warlords, Samsung and child slavery, Samsung and nestle projects, Samsung war crime, et al"

[-] chimpo_the_chimp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought you were just gonna list out some shitty consumer practices hahaha holy shit.

Edit: A lot of these things you're advising to search lead to 0 meaningful results. Seems kind of misleading.

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago
[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

fuck apple for selling their poor users out.

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You aren’t required to keep using Google.

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

that's really not a good excuse.

[-] Fishytricks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It isn’t. Apple still bad for selling out, but won’t use chrome.

[-] rob299@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The thing to take from the whole situation with Google having to pay apple for defualt search that I feel not enough people are talking about is that Apple didn't lose anything but gained. So of course they didn't care about the consequences for users. Apple never took any blame in media press either so they and Google both got away with it, with Google taking little stings from it it every now and then, and now finally it's catching up to Google in particular.

Not saying I blame apple as much as Google for making this step, but their greed is part of the problem too.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's a publicly traded company. They will never care as much about their users as they do about their bottom line

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


That figure was apparently not supposed to be disclosed in open court, but a witness mentioned it, leading Google's lawyer to "visibly cringe."

(Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai confirmed the number on Tuesday in testimony for a different antitrust lawsuit.)

Google is essentially willing to take a worse deal from Apple than it gives to Candy Crush.

You can certainly imagine why Google would love iPhone users to download the Chrome app and set it as their default search engines.

But data from Similarweb indicates Safari still makes up about 27% of browsers when considering all devices, including mobile phones.

Correction: November 15, 2023 — An earlier version of this story misstated the scope of Google's payments to Apple.


The original article contains 341 words, the summary contains 118 words. Saved 65%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with

That bot always sounds like he's apologizing.

How about just say

"Summary:"

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago

Nah it usually needs to apologize.

[-] calabast@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

This is the best comment I can make.

I agree

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best response to your best comment I could come up with.

[-] rob299@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

lol that's funny, but I assume it's to make it super clear that it is infact a bot to most people.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

36% is such an odd amount. Apple gets 30% of app revenue. 1/3rd would be 33%. How do they negotiate the extra few points over either of those baselines?

[-] jmbreuer@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Started negotiating at 40%, agreed to 10% less "so 10% of 40 is 4, right?"

[-] calabast@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Started at six percent. Tim cook said "I WANT SIX TIMES THAT AMOUNT!!!"

"AND GET ME MORE PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN!!!"

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 year ago

I know is notr related, but you find 36% on probability in the most unexpected places because is 1/e

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And both Chrome and Safari, at least on iOS, are just reskins of one another.

[-] rob299@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The question is why is it %36 instead of the 30% on the app stores for app developers. did apple get a little greedy about it? i'm surprised apple never raised the price further as a way of blackmailing Google, to keep its defualt search position on iPhones.

[-] avater@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't get it. Chrome is not installed on any apple device and I can freely switch my search to DuckDuckGo and never have to use any google stuff ever in my life.

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

People are used to google as a search engine and depending on their search habits, it can still produce the best results. And for a while, Chrome was the best mainstream browser. People are used to that, too.

And, most importantly, most people don’t really care. They use what they have. That’s the only reason bing is still a thing. And also the reason Google pays billions to Apple just so they’re the standard search engine. For a little while, Siri‘s standard search was bing. But now, Google just pays better, I guess.

I personally use Safari on Apple devices and Firefox on everything else and DuckDuckGo on all of them but that’s not the best solution for everyone and be it only because it takes some amount of effort.

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