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[-] stifle867@programming.dev 152 points 1 year ago

This could have been prevented if there was a good toddler with a gun.

[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 60 points 1 year ago

The toddlers need gun training. If every toddler had a gun, stuff like this wouldn't happen.

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

The solution is obviously to try toddlers as adults.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Another opportunity to talk to your toddler about good trigger discipline.

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[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

Or if we just had mental health programs for toddlers, we wouldn't have any issues with giving toddlers guns!

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

Another responsible gun owner!

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sad thing is is that there are probably many responsible gun owners, but its the jackasses that get publicized and drawn into the public eye.

Though, that's how it should be. It just takes one reckless owner to ruin several people's lives. That's an incredibly low margin of error, and people should talk about it.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 year ago

EVERYONE is a responsible gun owner until they aren’t.

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[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

There are, mostly in fact. For some rough math, there are 333,287,557 people in the US, about 50% of which own guns for a rough 166,643,778.5 gun owners. There are 60,000 yearly gun deaths including suicides, accidents, and intentional firearm homicides, for a total of 0.036004944523026% of gun owners likely to be irresponsible leading to death in any given year.

Couple notes, this doesn't include illegally owned guns/gun owners in the number (166,643,778.5) of gun owners, because we can't have that number by the nature of it. Most gun crime excluding suicide comes from them though, and so the 60,000 does include them. This also doesn't include people only injured or non injurious irresponsibility or negligent discharge, as often this goes unreported and so far as I can find isn't tracked well likely due to difficulty. That surely does happen as well, like the idiots filming themselves pointing it at the camera (and their own stupid hand). But these figures can at least paint a picture that somewhere around .036% of gun owners/yr are in the "irresponsible" camp, +/- .002% for margin of error.

I do agree, it should be talked about, we can learn from others' mistakes and lessen the frequency. We should also talk about it when people use them correctly in self defense, or training, IDPA, etc, because that is a lot more frequent and we can learn from good examples as well.

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[-] randombullet@feddit.de 55 points 1 year ago

Needs to be changed to negligent discharge.

There are no accidents, just negligence.

Unless there is hardware failure, but that's a different story

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sorry... you think letting a toddler get ahold of your loaded gun isn't child endangerment?

[-] marx2k@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago
[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Since when did USA become so anti freedom?
The toddler is clearly part of a militia, to prevent government oppression.
So he has every right to fire whatever weapon in whichever place and direction he chooses.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 32 points 1 year ago

that the 2-year-old boy took her Taurus 9mm firearm from her purse

Right, so the safety was off then, because there's no way that a two-year-old could release the safety on their own. The movies make it look like you just flick it with your finger but seriously that thing does not move without a reasonable around a force.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

A Taurus 9mm likely has a trigger pull between 5 and 9 pounds and kiddo did that...

https://www.guns.com/news/reviews/taurus-g2c-best-seller

Of course mom could have modified it to reduce the trigger pull too...

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

As a victim of a toddler pinch I have no doubt they can pull a trigger.

[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Many modern pistols don’t have safeties. Either way it shouldn’t have been loose in the purse and not in a holster.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

ohio, the florida of the northeast.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

As an Ohioan, I've been calling it "Cold Florida" for years.

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[-] ShunkW@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Of course it was in Waverly. That Walmart is always full of insane people who shouldn't have weapons, but you know they do. Used to pass through on my way to my hometown and refused to stop there after a few incidents with good old boys because I'm a gay dude who had very long hair back then.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure any of those things are unique to that particular Walmart.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

I live on the other side of the country and this has been my experience with every Walmart I've ever visited.

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[-] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I understand, but you've described greater than half of all Walmarts.

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago

This sounds about right for a Taurus owner.

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Imagine being able to narrow it down that much when the rest of us go "That sounds right for an American" 🙄

[-] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not a gun person. Is that the Karen gun or something?

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago

Taurus, and this model in particular, is known as a cheap piece of shit probably purchased and carried by someone lacking intellect and sophistication... You know, the type who would have the thing sloshing around unattended in a purse, with no holster.

[-] JAC@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago

I thought it was about the Ford Taurus. Lol

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That boar population is outta control, huh?

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

"Accidentally."

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

It's a good thing that Toddler had a gun! Imagine if a gunman had decided to shoot up that Wal Mart! The Toddler could Protect itself!

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago
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