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[-] yote_zip@pawb.social 133 points 11 months ago

Break the beef into smaller pieces first so the germs can't find it.

[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 99 points 11 months ago

Oooooh who lives in tepid water floating in dirty sinks?

[-] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 11 months ago
[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Abhorrently grey and uncertain it’s beef

Edit: you kids weren’t ready, I forgot to ask, that’s on me.

[-] Sea_pop@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago
[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

When sick days stack up and you’re after C. Diff

[-] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago
[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Then call up your boss before you’re gut like a fish

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[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 83 points 11 months ago

This guy is starting the next epidemic in his kitchen.

[-] EmoBean@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

He's either developing the next epidemic, or he's training his immune system to have street fights. He'll either be the savior or destroyer of the human race.

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[-] dugmeup@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago
[-] Octopus1348@thelemmy.club 14 points 11 months ago
[-] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

It's a sponge alright.
A sponge made of meat.

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[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago
[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

But for real now, is desinfecting your home with bleach that often really healthy (or good for the environment)?

I mean, you should probably not raw dog thaw that meat like a psychopath and obviously cleaning the kitchen, bathroom etc is important, but come on.

They mention the toothbrush holder - this thing is gross, ok? I mean it is disgusting and I also try to wash and keep it as dry and clean as I can. But it's not because of germs, since I put the butt of my toothbrush there, not its freaking head that goes in my mouth, and I don't start my day by licking the bottom of that glass either.

It's just funny to me to read this article when everyone around is saying how important germs are for our health and allergy protection and how we are supposed to let kids eat dirt basically but then they tell us to bleach the crap out of the sink drain because germs. Then you go read about the hygiene hypothesis in the author's next article.

Also come on, who has time to take off the stove knobs every week and clean them thoroughly? Does the first bullet point suggest I replace a rag with a rag? Or did I misunderstand something?

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[-] EndOfLine@lemm.ee 53 points 11 months ago

I'm just guessing here but I would think that cooking would kill off anything picked up from the thawing process.

It's nasty, but not necessarily unsafe.

[-] baggins@lemmy.ca 57 points 11 months ago

And now you're washing your dishes in a sink coated with whatever came out of the meat

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[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 42 points 11 months ago

Not necessarily toxins (as in ones produced by bacterial/fungal processes) or toxic/bad-tasting chemicals left over from cleaning dishes.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Assuming dishes have been cleaned and not just rinsed/wiped

[-] zaph@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

If they're cleaned in a sink that just had raw meat floating around, they're not clean regardless.

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[-] aulin@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

Sure, it might be safe to eat after it's been cooked, but who wants washed mince meat?

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Here's the real problem

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 11 months ago

as long as you cook it thoroughly it's not terrible but not great. though keeping it in the wrapper would be better (that's what we do at the restaurant). even a ziploc bag.

i mean assuming the water is clean and the sink is relatively routinely cleaned.

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 44 points 11 months ago

I mean... the sink in the pic is visibly dirty.

[-] Venat0r@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Might just be a bit rusty, that'll just act like an iron supplement 😂

[-] adrenochromeaddict@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 11 months ago

This is how our ancestor did it

[-] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 27 points 11 months ago

and they lives till their mid 30s.

[-] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago

That's another 2 violations, Harry.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Granted it's usually done in something substantially cleaner, but this is pretty much how professional kitchens thaw frozen meat.

Edit: here's my faq so people can stop assuming things about this method of thawing meat.

  • this is safe to do. Meat is cooked at temperatures that kill all potential bacteria and parasites, even for steaks cooked medium rare.
  • this is generally done with the meat still in the packaging, unless there's a dedicated place to thaw meat. The thawing container is washed before and after each use.
  • it's always done with cold, running water to prevent the meat from thawing unevenly or unsafely.
[-] Johnhones@sh.itjust.works 27 points 11 months ago

In my experience, we left it in the packaging, and also the taps continued running as that helped speed it along. Strictly in cold water.

[-] MartinXYZ@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

That sound marginally better but honestly I've never experienced a kitchen where it would be okay to thaw meat outside the fridge. This might be a Danish thing, but if the health inspector came by and saw that, the restaurant would probably get fined.

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[-] MartinXYZ@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

Having worked in several professional kitchens, I have to debunk this. You don't throw unpacked, raw meat into a zink (with or without water) to thaw it. You leave it in the fridge, preferably in a closed container until it's thawed. leaving it out in room temperature makes it a feast for bacteria.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I've helped thaw chicken in cold water when I worked in a kitchen. Like I said though, we did it in a substantially cleaner container dedicated to the purpose of thawing meat. It was a giant pot meant for cooking pasta.

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[-] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

Hopefully in a clean container though?

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[-] dugmeup@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Which restaurant is that? Just want to know so I can avoid spending the day in the toilet vomiting and shitting.

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[-] MartinXYZ@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago

"Massively unsafe"? only if he wants to eat it afterwards...

[-] FleetingTit@feddit.de 19 points 11 months ago

It will be disgusting but if you thoroughly cook it it should be safe.

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Cooking kills most bacteria - but not all, that's how food poisoning still happens in cooked food (cross contamination too, but that's a separate issue). You should never defrost meat at room temp, best way is in the fridge since it still keeps it at a temp that's safe for a few days after being fully defrosted but it takes a day or two to fully defrost. To do it faster you can submerge it in cold water if you replace the water every couple of hours (or more often, depending on your room temp) until you cook it but that's a last resort if you just need it defrosted in the same day

[-] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

I thought the cooked food poisoning is from the toxins that bacteria/fungi make in the food. The toxins are usually to keep competitors from taking their food.

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[-] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

It's brilliant. Once it thaws, just start a campfire under the sink and you can cook it right there. It's metal, pans are metal, quid pro quo same thing.

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[-] wabafee@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

His training his stomach like an Indian.

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

keep going, probably fine

[-] MTK@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Why not pee on it? It's warmer so it will work faster and I it is probably cleaner.

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